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re: 49ers Fan Showing "Evidence" Of NFL Being Rigged!?
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:08 pm to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:08 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Why do you assume refs don't make mistakes, ever?
Wrong...the Ed Hockuli (sp) bad call in the San Diego vs Denver game a few years back was a legitimate bad call.
95% of the calls are legit.
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:10 pm to LSU92
No, you claimed that there was a lot more activity on the game because of the earlier results. That's clearly not the case.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:12 pm to LSU92
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Exactly my point.
Did he just kill his own argument? Thanks for proving our point
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:12 pm to H-Town Tiger
100+k bets are common and that draws no attention in Vegas at all.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:14 pm to Sophandros
No, there was more money on the game because it was a national broadcast with Pitt being the favorite. Most money was on Pitt. Vegas got destroyed all day and this loss (if Pitt covered)would have further buried them.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:14 pm to LSUPHILLY72
There was no increased action on the game, which is the point of my post. Has SD been favored, it still would have had millions bet on it. That's how Vegas works.
The game was neither fixed nor manipulated, unless you believe that the refs forced the SD player to throw an illegal forward pass, which is what caused the confusion in the first place.
The game was neither fixed nor manipulated, unless you believe that the refs forced the SD player to throw an illegal forward pass, which is what caused the confusion in the first place.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:15 pm to LSUPHILLY72
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Did he just kill his own argument? Thanks for proving our point
He did
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:16 pm to LSU92
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LSU92
THANKS!
By the way...the 2005 LSU vs Florida game kinda ended the same way.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:20 pm to LSUPHILLY72
Take a kook at the Carroll Rosenbloom article I posted above. This league was built on gambling. The league has modified their image since the old days, but they still are a hostage to Vegas and corporate dollars. Remember it is not sport ... it's "entertainment."
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:21 pm to LSU92
No, I didn't. But you guys clearly see what you want to see.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:21 pm to LSUPHILLY72
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THANKS! By the way...the 2005 LSU vs Florida game kinda ended the same way.
All I remember is Addai doing the bunny hop to the end zone.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:23 pm to LSU92
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Exactly my point...if the touchdown holds like it should have , all the Pitt betters win. Final would have been 17 to 10 or 18 to 10. By disallowing it ....Pitt wins the game, but does not cover.
ok, but it says a total of $10M was bet in Nevada on the game and most was no Pitt. We don't know what most is, but rarely is a game more the 70-30, especially in the NFL, so lets say it was 75-25, that's 7.5 on Pitt and 2.5 on SD. That's a difference of $5M. Sounds like a lot but that's $5M, STATEWIDE, spread out over all the sports books, so what's the most any 1 casino stood to lose? No where near enough to make them worry. Hell even if 1 casino lost the entire $5M, that's really not that much for a multi billion dollar casino. Now how much of that $5M swing do you think someone could have won without the casino that booked the bet or the NGC noticing?
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:25 pm to Sophandros
You want another example:
LSU vs Florida 2011
Brad Wing punts the ball inside the Gators 5 yard line up 14-0 in the first quarter. The refs call an illegal formation...forcing LSU to punt again. I rewatched the play and there was no illegal formation.
Next play...Wing runs 55 yards on a TD. It gets called back on a BS taunting call.
LSU settles for a FG. The spread 17.5. If LSU goes up 21-0...people flip the channel.
LSU vs Florida 2011
Brad Wing punts the ball inside the Gators 5 yard line up 14-0 in the first quarter. The refs call an illegal formation...forcing LSU to punt again. I rewatched the play and there was no illegal formation.
Next play...Wing runs 55 yards on a TD. It gets called back on a BS taunting call.
LSU settles for a FG. The spread 17.5. If LSU goes up 21-0...people flip the channel.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:26 pm to SDVTiger
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100+k bets are common and that draws no attention in Vegas at all.
A define common
B) BS they draw no attention. Bets that big move lines and if its not someone they know that makes bets that large, they certainly take notice.
Using the Pitt example above, if $10M was bet total on the game a single $100K bet is 1% of the total, someone would notice that.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:27 pm to Sophandros
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But you guys clearly see what you want to see.
It's what we know...
BTW, did you really think there was any chance the Saints would lose on Monday night football when they reopened the dome after Katrina.
Did you really think the Giants would lose the first game back in NY following 911. FTR...the Saints played them. Joe Horn caught the game winner, but about 40 flags were thrown to make sure it did not happen.
And...how bout dem Patriots winning the Super Bowl just months after 911...whew thank God someone created the tuck rule to save their arse.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:27 pm to H-Town Tiger
You dont know what what you're talking about at all
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:29 pm to LSU92
If I remember correctly...there was a sack fumble on the last play that LSU recovered and returned for a TD...allowing LSU to cover.
By the time we got to the lower level of the south end zone...the refs ruled Leak down when he clearly was not.
By the time we got to the lower level of the south end zone...the refs ruled Leak down when he clearly was not.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:33 pm to LSUPHILLY72
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LSU settles for a FG. The spread 17.5. If LSU goes up 21-0...people flip the channel.
Now I think you are just fricking with me, because you really can't be this stupid
LSU covered the spread easily. The TV contracts and advertising is paid in advance, so while I'm sure CBS doesn't want people to flip channels it does not cost them or their advertisers a dime if people do at that point. Saturday afternoon games really don't draw big enough ratings anyway. People that would flip at 21-0 are not thinking its game on at 17-0. The rating for the entire 2011 season on CBS were the highest of any TV package that year, that's what TV execs and conference commissioners care about not mid rate fluctuations of any one game.
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This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:34 pm to LSUPHILLY72
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Thanks for proving our point
So answer this. If you were going to fix a game for the spread, how would you do it? Would you wait for the last play and just make a ruling nullifying a TD that would have blow the score in some bizarre fashion that might, you know, draw attention? I know I wouldn't.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:37 pm to LSUPHILLY72
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Brad Wing punts the ball inside the Gators 5 yard line up 14-0 in the first quarter. The refs call an illegal formation...forcing LSU to punt again. I rewatched the play and there was no illegal formation. Next play...Wing runs 55 yards on a TD. It gets called back on a BS taunting call. LSU settles for a FG. The spread 17.5. If LSU goes up 21-0...people flip the channel.
Honestly, college is a different animal. I believe the NFL has the attitude of "we have a strong desire to have the most competitive games possible." It's good for the networks who payy us a many millions of dollars, it's good for our advertisers. We don't want people turning off the tv in the 2nd quarter. It's good for our fans to have close games.
Officials tend to get flag happy against teams with big leads in the 1st half. This works in the NFL.
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