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Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:34 am to Lester Earl
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if you line up Brazil's track times with say a similar sprinter like jacoby ford, who actually ran sub 4.3, they just dont compare
Ford's 60m dash time is 2 tenths faster than Brazil's PR
and his 100m PR is 4 tenths faster than Brazils
What are their 10 meter splits? Sounds like Ford is just a more powerful runner, his top end speed is more impressive. The 40 yard dash is about 23.5 meters less than the 60m after all. Brazil could actually be the better starter but just not have the drive to finish out as well as Ford.
As for all the guys running in the 4.2/4.3's I would like to see their times on a track. Some fast tracks can shave off a few hundredths easily.
This post was edited on 2/28/13 at 12:42 am
Posted on 2/28/13 at 3:58 am to ATLienTiger
brazil ran a 4.29 or something like dat at the nike opening combine. It was the fastest man race.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 6:06 am to Keys Open Doors
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People really fail to understand just how fast a 4.7 is.
FIFY.
Seriously, most people aren't breaking 5. Yes, I'm saying that these linemen running at the combine are faster than most people, including posters on here.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 6:22 am to ATLienTiger
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What are their 10 meter splits? Sounds like Ford is just a more powerful runner, his top end speed is more impressive. The 40 yard dash is about 23.5 meters less than the 60m after all. Brazil could actually be the better starter but just not have the drive to finish out as well as Ford.
I don't know. If he's 2 tenths faster in a 60, I'd be willing to bet he's getting out of the blocks faster. He would have to be significantly faster throughout the remainder of the race to make up for a slower start and still finish 2 tenths ahead. Who is Brazil? Is he related to Bennie?
Posted on 2/28/13 at 6:30 am to St Augustine
Different spelling. He's a DB/RB/Returner that just signed with LSU.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 6:34 am to JJ27
As an aside, I've long felt that hs 40 times, especially on recruiting sites, are greatly exaggerated. It's hilarious that so many guys who allegedly run in the 4.3s and 4.4s as high schoolers somehow become slower after 3-4 years of training in college...
Posted on 2/28/13 at 6:38 am to Sophandros
I think they're inflated as well because they're typically hand timed. For example I really did run 4.78 hand timed before my senior year. If that was laser it was probably 5.1. 
If not higher...That was also on the track with spikes. WM runs their 40's on the track, not grass and you can wear whatever you want. Also guys usually add a good bit of weight in college as well. You add 30lbs, you're going to be slower.
If not higher...That was also on the track with spikes. WM runs their 40's on the track, not grass and you can wear whatever you want. Also guys usually add a good bit of weight in college as well. You add 30lbs, you're going to be slower. This post was edited on 2/28/13 at 6:51 am
Posted on 2/28/13 at 6:44 am to JJ27
Not necessarily. There is a reason sprinters lift weights...
Posted on 2/28/13 at 7:15 am to St Augustine
Buster Skrine ran a 4.27 at the combine in 2011. Regardless, sub-4.3 is an elite club if guys like Reggie Bush and Trindon Holliday can't make it.
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 7:17 am to ATLienTiger
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What are their 10 meter splits? Sounds like Ford is just a more powerful runner, his top end speed is more impressive. The 40 yard dash is about 23.5 meters less than the 60m after all. Brazil could actually be the better starter but just not have the drive to finish out as well as Ford.
What you're implying, that Brazil is faster than Jacoby Ford over 40 yards but gives up more than 0.2s between 40 yards and 60 meters, is very doubtful.
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As for all the guys running in the 4.2/4.3's I would like to see their times on a track. Some fast tracks can shave off a few hundredths easily.
Brazil competed at the LHSAA State Championships last year, which means that he's already run on one of the fastest tracks in the nation. I was there that day, and I can tell you that it was a bright sunny day and he had a tailwind in both the 100 and the 200.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 7:38 am to NOTORlOUSD
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Buster Skrine ran a 4.27 at the combine in 2011. Regardless, sub-4.3 is an elite club if guys like Reggie Bush and Trindon Holliday can't make it.
He may have run 4.27, but he didn't do it at Indianapolis because according to nfl.com, he only ran 4.48 at the combine.
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Don't ever put too much stock into those hand times.
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Former University of Tennessee at Chattanooga cornerback Buster Skrine knew that every 40-yard dash he ran leading up to and during the 2011 NFL combine was important. Being 5-foot-9 and coming from a Football Championship Subdivision program, Skrine had to stand out from the crowd with his speed.
"If you're a smaller school player and some teams haven't been looking at you, running well will do big things for you," said Skrine, who was fast at the combine and ultimately was drafted in the fifth round by the Cleveland Browns.
His experiences running the 40 highlight how important the sprint is -- and how inexact the times can be.
In the first of his two attempts, Skrine was clocked, unofficially, by NFL Network at 4.29 seconds. That was hand-timed with a stopwatch, as was his second attempt in which Skrine posted a 4.36 despite stumbling slightly at the start.
That 4.29 brought Skrine a lot of attention both from the analysts on NFL Network and those watching on TV who then discussed it on Twitter. However, Skrine's official fastest time according to the NFL, which uses laser timers at the combine, was 4.48 seconds.
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 8:58 am to trackfan
I still can't believe Trindon Holliday didn't break 4.3
He shoots out the blocks and was one of the fastest 100m runners in the world.
I think if he was given 10 opportunities he could do it 5-6 times. Track athletes will be the first to say that some days they aren't at their fastest and it just can't be forced.
He shoots out the blocks and was one of the fastest 100m runners in the world.
I think if he was given 10 opportunities he could do it 5-6 times. Track athletes will be the first to say that some days they aren't at their fastest and it just can't be forced.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:05 am to TheCaterpillar
What were mccalleb's unofficial times this year? 4.21 and 4.29 or something? But both officials were well over 4.3.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:06 am to Bow to Auburn
And Bo knows 40 yard sprints... 4.19 
This post was edited on 2/28/13 at 9:07 am
Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:15 am to TheCaterpillar
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I still can't believe Trindon Holliday didn't break 4.3
He shoots out the blocks and was one of the fastest 100m runners in the world.
I think if he was given 10 opportunities he could do it 5-6 times. Track athletes will be the first to say that some days they aren't at their fastest and it just can't be forced.
His 4.34 is consistent with what I witnessed on the track. Jacoby Ford, who ran 4.28 at the same combine, was consistently faster than Trindon at 60 meters, but Trindon was better at 100 meters. Ford would lead in the early part of their races due to his superior start, but Trindon would make up ground at the end of their races due his superior top end. Thus in 2009, Ford was the indoor 60-meter champion while Trindon was the outdoor 100-meter champion.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:20 am to Sophandros
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. It's hilarious that so many guys who allegedly run in the 4.3s and 4.4s as high schoolers somehow become slower after 3-4 years of training in college...
well they do put on 20-40 lbs in college, so that's understandable
most of these guys also are running track in HS and lose that form in college
a lot of these high school combines use laser 40s
This post was edited on 2/28/13 at 9:21 am
Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:30 am to TheCaterpillar
I think people need to realize the difference between a 4.27 and a 4.34 exceptionally minuscule. When they shore Goodwin and simulcasted Tavon Austin the difference was Goodwin was a little farther in his stride an had brought his need forward a little more
Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:46 am to Bow to Auburn
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What were mccalleb's unofficial times this year? 4.21 and 4.29 or something? But both officials were well over 4.3.
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Onterio McCalebb flirted with NFL Combine history for an hour or so Sunday.
In his second attempt of the 40-yard dash, McCalebb clocked an unofficial time of 4.21 seconds, which is three one-hundredths of a second fewer than Chris Johnson's record-setting 4.24-second run in 2008.
It was later revealed that McCalebb's official time was 4.34 seconds, which tied West Virginia's Tavon Austin for second-fastest of the 2013 NFL Combine.
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