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re: 30 for 30 Without Bias
Posted on 2/6/12 at 6:38 pm to LSU77
Posted on 2/6/12 at 6:38 pm to LSU77
If Bias would have joined that Celtic's team the sky was the limit for him. In college he absolutely took over games against the best competition in the country. Bias was a physical freak and even on that level of play was a man among boys. He was unpolished but with that team and time to learn the game it would have been something to see, just not in a Jordan way. Think Shawn Kemp scary with a good attitude.
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Posted on 2/6/12 at 7:02 pm to Algerian
This was along my line of thinking...learning and playing with that Celtics team would have been invaluable for him.
Posted on 2/6/12 at 7:15 pm to LSU77
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SO, WTF are you commenting for ?
oh im sorry, do you have a different opinion? the only reason i even commented was because of how obvious that answer was. and no one has or will dispute it.
Posted on 2/6/12 at 7:49 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
My favorites were the U and One Night in Vegas. The Fab 5 wasnt part of the 30 for 30 but I thought that one was really good.
I think they did a good job on "run ricky run" as well
I think they did a good job on "run ricky run" as well
This post was edited on 2/6/12 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 2/6/12 at 9:58 pm to Nonetheless
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My favorite 30 for 30 so far has been "The Two Escobars". I'm not even a soccer fan.
That documentary had a great combination of heartbreaking story, a lot of good information from firsthand sources, and even some humor sprinkled in. Top notch. I should say this is coming from a big soccer fan who already knew the story of Andres Escobar prior to seeing this.
This post was edited on 2/6/12 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 2/6/12 at 10:07 pm to CJD4LSU
I wish I would have seen it, love those 30 for 30 episodes.
Posted on 2/7/12 at 9:44 am to CaliforniaTiger
Back to the OP's question--- we really have no idea where he would have stacked up, long term, but you have to think that he would have changed the fortunes and window of that Celtic franchise.
Skill wise, he was as dominant a force at his position in the college game as I can remember seeing in 30+ years of watching the college game. The overwhelming thing that sticks out in my memory, though, was that you could watch Bias' Maryland play teams that could simply bury them with talent, and he would not only keep them competitive, but even win a number of games they had no business being in--- and he did that without being the same sort of ball dominant scorer that plagued early pro Jordan before Jordan became the consummate teammate and winner.
If you have to ask me who's NBA game I think would have been a good patterns for him, I think he would have been a bigger, better Clyde Drexler, with superior range and better footwork when he went down on the blocks.
FWIW, the main reason that I believe people compare him to Jordan was the raw athleticism. I've included a video snippet from a Bias highlight reel, that starts at the 53 second mark. Take a look at where he is, relative to the backboard. It's freakish, even by today's standards.
Without Bias-- Up Up and Away
Skill wise, he was as dominant a force at his position in the college game as I can remember seeing in 30+ years of watching the college game. The overwhelming thing that sticks out in my memory, though, was that you could watch Bias' Maryland play teams that could simply bury them with talent, and he would not only keep them competitive, but even win a number of games they had no business being in--- and he did that without being the same sort of ball dominant scorer that plagued early pro Jordan before Jordan became the consummate teammate and winner.
If you have to ask me who's NBA game I think would have been a good patterns for him, I think he would have been a bigger, better Clyde Drexler, with superior range and better footwork when he went down on the blocks.
FWIW, the main reason that I believe people compare him to Jordan was the raw athleticism. I've included a video snippet from a Bias highlight reel, that starts at the 53 second mark. Take a look at where he is, relative to the backboard. It's freakish, even by today's standards.
Without Bias-- Up Up and Away
Posted on 2/7/12 at 7:42 pm to BoardReader
Bird wanted Bias with the Celts and would have taught him the NBA way...to become the next captain of the Celts. I believe had Bias lived, the Celts would have competed for several more NBA Championships between their 1986 title and the mid-late ninties. Lewis's death was also very bad for the Celts...Bias and Lewis could have accomplished some things. As it was, the Celts championship drought lasted more than two decades. Bird was devastated by the death...he saw Bias as a reincarnation of himself, but with much more athleticism.
Posted on 2/7/12 at 9:24 pm to LSUandAU
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Bird wanted Bias with the Celts and would have taught him the NBA way...to become the next captain of the Celts. I believe had Bias lived, the Celts would have competed for several more NBA Championships between their 1986 title and the mid-late ninties. Lewis's death was also very bad for the Celts...Bias and Lewis could have accomplished some things. As it was, the Celts championship drought lasted more than two decades. Bird was devastated by the death...he saw Bias as a reincarnation of himself, but with much more athleticism.
Bird just did a podcast with Bill Simmons saying he would have walked away after 1988, if Bias had lived-- essentially saving himself the last few years of horrific wear and tear, while leaving the Celtics franchise in very good hands. It really surprised me to hear those words out of Bird's mouth.
Bird on Bias: Starts at 11:35ish
Posted on 2/7/12 at 9:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Only a couple things I can think of off the top of my head that would happened FOR SURE had Bias not died.
1. More Larry Bird. Guys like Tim Duncan today have had their minutes waned down as they got older. It saves them for the playoffs. Bias was going to do this for Bird. That '87 Celtics team made a heck of a run to the Finals where they lost to LA in 6. The impact of the injuries that team sustained shortened the careers of many Boston players. McHale played with a broken foot in the playoffs and Bird's back got bad during that playoff run. With Bias Bird would of had more seasons.
2. Boston would not have taken such a quick nose dive after the Bird era. Bias was the guy for the future. When he died it really hurt Boston in the long run.
That's the toughest 30 for 30 to watch. He was a good kid. Had so much talent. Took a drug that no one realized how bad it truly was. Just a tragedy.
1. More Larry Bird. Guys like Tim Duncan today have had their minutes waned down as they got older. It saves them for the playoffs. Bias was going to do this for Bird. That '87 Celtics team made a heck of a run to the Finals where they lost to LA in 6. The impact of the injuries that team sustained shortened the careers of many Boston players. McHale played with a broken foot in the playoffs and Bird's back got bad during that playoff run. With Bias Bird would of had more seasons.
2. Boston would not have taken such a quick nose dive after the Bird era. Bias was the guy for the future. When he died it really hurt Boston in the long run.
That's the toughest 30 for 30 to watch. He was a good kid. Had so much talent. Took a drug that no one realized how bad it truly was. Just a tragedy.
Posted on 2/7/12 at 10:26 pm to Akit1
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1. More Larry Bird. Guys like Tim Duncan today have had their minutes waned down as they got older. It saves them for the playoffs. Bias was going to do this for Bird. That '87 Celtics team made a heck of a run to the Finals where they lost to LA in 6. The impact of the injuries that team sustained shortened the careers of many Boston players. McHale played with a broken foot in the playoffs and Bird's back got bad during that playoff run. With Bias Bird would of had more seasons.
Except you know, the part where Bird says he would have left the game much sooner, had Bias lived.
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