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re: 2026 Formula 1 (F1) Season Thread
Posted on 3/17/26 at 8:03 am to Lsut81
Posted on 3/17/26 at 8:03 am to Lsut81
Yeah, but why is it a slight? Because they use more powerful batteries?
These cars are nearly as fast (faster in some cases) as last year. My only personal complaint is the ICE sounds like crap which could likely be tuned for better sound put would result in less power.
These cars are nearly as fast (faster in some cases) as last year. My only personal complaint is the ICE sounds like crap which could likely be tuned for better sound put would result in less power.
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 8:06 am to Gulf Coast Tiger
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V6 Turbos would be a good step
I forget who it was, maybe Brundle or some former driver. When the V6 hybrid era started he was standing by the rail in the final turn and heard the cars come through.
He turned to the camera and said, "They killed the sport with this"
ffw 12 years and the sport is bigger than it ever has been.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 8:14 am to fightin tigers
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He turned to the camera and said, "They killed the sport with this"
ffw 12 years and the sport is bigger than it ever has been.
I almost posted something similar last night in response to another post in this thread. Lots of people hated the 2014 hybrid change and subsequent Merc domination and said it would kill the sport, and look where we are now.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 8:30 am to BottomlandBrew
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and look where we are now.
Meh, take that with a grain of salt.
Netflix is a HUGE driver behind where F1 is currently.
US viewership.. hmm, something happened 2019/2020. Wonder what that was.
2019: 672,000
2020: 608,000
2021: 948,000 (or 949,000)
2022: 1.21 million
2023: 1.1 million
2024: 1.1 million
2025: 1.32 million
The success has NOTHING to do with the style of cars, engines, etc... Its all about the shift regarding marketing and streaming targeted at younger generations along with females.
This post was edited on 3/17/26 at 8:33 am
Posted on 3/17/26 at 8:30 am to fightin tigers
DTS, love it or hate it, is a big driver in the explosion of F1
Posted on 3/17/26 at 8:38 am to Gulf Coast Tiger
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DTS, love it or hate it, is a big driver in the explosion of F1
Yup and the risk is that if you put out a shite product that drives your core away and to other forms of racing, whats left when the fair-weather Netflix/TikTok generation moves on?
Posted on 3/17/26 at 8:53 am to Lsut81
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Yup and the risk is that if you put out a shite product that drives your core away and to other forms of racing, whats left when the fair-weather Netflix/TikTok generation moves on?
That’s an excellent point
It seems the manufacturers are pushing the hybrid shite. I’m all about V8s. It’s hard to beat the sound of a good V8. One of my favorite sounds when we go to a NASCAR track is hearing the cars practicing
This post was edited on 3/17/26 at 9:02 am
Posted on 3/17/26 at 8:56 am to Gulf Coast Tiger
SIAP - some background behind McLaren's problems in China...
From The Athletic
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From The Athletic
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At McLaren, as it prepared Norris’ car ahead of the main China race, the team discovered it could not start the engine.
The fault was quickly traced to the hybrid system on the Mercedes engine, which, in 2026, as with all other engines, must consist of an internal combustion engine part, a turbocharger, a battery, a control electronics system and a Motor-Generator Unit Kinetic system that converts braking energy into electricity to add more engine power overall.
The issue of concern for McLaren was the battery on Norris’ engine. “We couldn’t communicate with this component,” Stella said.
As replacing the battery would take too long, McLaren tried to address the problem by replacing the Electronic Control Unit on Norris’ car, hoping that a new set of sensors would enable the battery to work with McLaren’s computers.
The ECU is a standard part that teams can replace in just a few minutes and is supplied by Motion Applied, a company that manages the software all F1 cars use. Motion Applied is a separate company from the McLaren race team and became independent of the McLaren Group in 2021. All 11 teams receive this part for each car under a tender agreement arranged by the FIA, motorsport’s governing body.
Engine system issues can also sometimes be addressed by changing the steering wheel, since this part lets a driver control the complex software systems each car uses, as occurred in Russell’s qualifying drama last Saturday.
“We reprogrammed (the car), but there was no way to fix the problem,” said Stella. “Lando’s car was simply just not in condition to leave the garage.”
Then, when McLaren went to start Piastri’s car on the grid after the pre-race ceremonies, a similar but unrelated issue with his engine electrics was detected. “The car wouldn’t fire up again,” said Stella. “In a similar manner to Lando’s car, but actually on Oscar’s side it was easier to diagnose the problem.”
Stella did not specify which part of the electric system on Piastri’s car was not working as expected. Although it could work out what had gone wrong, McLaren did not have enough time to get its one driver who had reached the grid into the race.
Stella added: “It’s quite exceptional and uncharacteristic that you have two terminal problems pretty much at the same time, on the same component, which in this case is on the electrical side of the power unit.”
Until the root cause is confirmed, it remains unclear whether the fault lies with Mercedes hardware or McLaren’s integration of it.
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In China, a battery issue at the works team heavily disrupted Russell’s final session in main race qualifying, where Antonelli qualified ahead after the Briton had led the way in Shanghai to that point.
The battery problem caused Russell to stop on track briefly and it worsened when he restarted his car, leading to a gear selection issue that Mercedes could only rectify once he returned to the pits.
This post was edited on 3/17/26 at 9:01 am
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:10 am to Lsut81
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The success has NOTHING to do with the style of cars, engines, etc
But the hybrid cars had nothing to do with killing the sport. That's the point I'm trying to make. I get the Netflix/Liberty effect. I'm not saying that didn't help. It did. Massively. I'm saying these current regs aren't going to kill the sport. That's chicken little shite, imo. We are two races in to a massive engine change. They'll get it sorted out. Management has expressed their openness to modifying things.
80% of the fair weather fans were going away at some point regardless.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:54 am to Gulf Coast Tiger
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DTS, love it or hate it, is a big driver in the explosion of F1
No doubt. The type of car or engine or electrification has little effect on the popularity drive of the sport.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 10:14 am to BottomlandBrew
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But the hybrid cars had nothing to do with killing the sport.
I didn't say it would/did... I"m simply pointing out the fact that someone said "and look at how big the sport is now", showing that had nothing to do with the engine regulations and all to do with the shift in the business. The product didn't get it to where it is today.
Having said that, theres a difference between an incremental hybrid or turbo and going to 50/50 power setup that is electric and at some point, you fall off the cliff and are a shell of what you are supposed to be. Like the co-founder of formula-e is warning.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 10:18 am to Lsut81
The co-founder of FE is worried about them taking his series and the manufacturers choosing F1 over FE.
Their product is meh at best but mainly due to trying to be something they aren't (at least in my opinion). Imitation can only get them so far.
Their product is meh at best but mainly due to trying to be something they aren't (at least in my opinion). Imitation can only get them so far.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 10:23 am to fightin tigers
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The co-founder of FE is worried about them taking his series and the manufacturers choosing F1 over FE.
Don't disagree
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Their product is meh at best
Yeah, its shite and his warning should be heeded.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 10:35 am to fightin tigers
I am going to keep watching but if Mercedes keeps this up, its going to get very boring very fast.
If Ferrari or Red Bull can't figure something out for Japan, its going to be a bit boring for the remainder of the season.
Not that this is a bold take but
Constructors' Championship = 100% going to be Mercedes-AMG
Driver's Championship = 90% confident it will be George.
If Ferrari or Red Bull can't figure something out for Japan, its going to be a bit boring for the remainder of the season.
Not that this is a bold take but
Constructors' Championship = 100% going to be Mercedes-AMG
Driver's Championship = 90% confident it will be George.
This post was edited on 3/17/26 at 10:36 am
Posted on 3/17/26 at 10:39 am to Vood
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f Ferrari or Red Bull can't figure something out for Japan, its going to be a bit boring for the remainder of the season.
Maybe they will, but I'm surprised the FIA didn't' say that teams could do R&D during the month off in April now.
Initial indications as it was being considered were the teams would use it as a vacation for their staff since it wasn't like the summer break and they could actually take off.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 10:43 am to BottomlandBrew
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80% of the fair weather fans were going away at some point regardless.
I think you are wrong. Those fair weather fans became real fans with it on ESPN and watching fast cars with driver skill and no in race commercials. Thats how you grow a sport.
Selling out to Apple lost a ton of fans, nothing to do with actual racing rather tired of compiling too many steaming services.
Then you have hard core fans who are against 50/50 electric cars where the driver mist be an engineer.
Thats not how you grow a sport. Look to Nascar as proof, when they went to COT they lost over half their fans. Their viewership is 25% of what it used to be. They are trying to bring it back but are still fighting an uphill battle.
And then any new fans gained this year will be true fair weather fans. They might check it out but won’t stay because as they learn its not drivers but engineers manipulating the passes they’ll leave too.
We will never get any honest viewer numbers from Apple. But when big sports writers are ragging on the series it has big problems.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 11:01 am to OU Guy
Well so far Apple has done a better job than ESPN. The payout is easy to follow and you get Sky Sports and F1TV
Posted on 3/17/26 at 11:07 am to Lsut81
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but I'm surprised the FIA didn't' say that teams could do R&D during the month off in April now.
They should relax the testing rules now that there is a cost cap
Posted on 3/17/26 at 11:29 am to Gulf Coast Tiger
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Well so far Apple has done a better job than ESPN. The payout is easy to follow and you get Sky Sports and F1TV
You still fail to understand. Its not about the actual product its about people pitting their foot down to constant new streaming services.
Last year Nascar moved 5 races to Prime. They lost 35% of their dwindling viewers for those 5 races (Prime does publish numbers unlike Apple). And then they lost some viewers when they came back as fans got used to not watching.
Its fun to watch people defend this as if they will persuade fans to go sign up for Apple lol. That ship has sailed and per contract F1 is stuck with Apple and losing so many American viewers.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 11:40 am to OU Guy
When they see overall revenue drop from sponsors they will change their tune.
Until then their job is to maximize shareholder value. Their viewership plays into that number but the bottomline is all that matters.
Until then their job is to maximize shareholder value. Their viewership plays into that number but the bottomline is all that matters.
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