re: 2025 NASCAR Season Thread - 2025-26 Offseason

A slim possibility, uphill all the way, and you will not catch any breaks

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He swerved. Park him.

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Jeff Gluck
@jeff_gluck
NASCAR has filed its response to 23XI/Front Row's request for a temporary restraining order that would allow them to keep their charter status.

Some nuggets:

-- NASCAR says the teams do not actually have the charters and never did since they never agreed to the terms; NASCAR does. Thus NASCAR believes they cannot get the charters "back" and it's a "false premise" that giving them back would be maintaining the status quo.

-- NASCAR says "There is no credible risk (or even threat) that any of Plaintiffs’ drivers will leave mid-season, let alone over the next two weeks. None of their evidence even makes that claim." Same with sponsors.

-- NASCAR says it will not sell the charters until the court's ruling on the preliminary injunction motion despite "substantial interest in Charters from motorsports companies racing in
INDYCAR, Xfinity, and other series"

-- Michael Jordan said in a deposition that 23XI's long-term participation in NASCAR was contingent on permanent charters. "When asked what he was 'hoping (to) get out of this lawsuit,' his response was: 'Permanent charters, an opportunity to race Cup, race stock cars.'"

-- NASCAR says both teams have submitted the paperwork to run as open teams for the rest of the season.

Not really. He knew the rules when he signed the original charters. Him not signing was just a business decision they made and that gamble likely will not pay off.

Everyone knows I beat up Nascar all the time. But they are correct in this one thing. And MJ will have to enter races at will, but has 99% chance of getting teams in all races. He just gets less of the pot when they pay the charters 3 times more.

It works well, the 4 open slots are up and coming teams. At some point a team wants out and there is demand for their charters which makes their value higher. The team getting in is now guaranteed races and has value. The leaving team gets value out of their investment. It works.

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Dumb. More Flaps are not gonna stop cars from flipping

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It's like they don't want to admit that the giant wing they mandate for the bottom of the cars is what is causing the blow overs. Take away that under-pan, have them run the previous gen splitter again, and that problem goes away.

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At some point a team wants out and there is demand for their charters which makes their value higher. The team getting in is now guaranteed races and has value. The leaving team gets value out of their investment. It works.

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Unless NASCAR pulls the rug out from under you though, right? Isn't that the whole fight? That they're not permanent so all of that could go away on a whim.

And it’s official, they’re racing in San Diego next year although where remains to be determined.

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Gotta cater to the libs

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Wut?

Jeff Gluck
@jeff_gluck

The judge in the 23XI/Front Row suit against NASCAR has denied them a temporary restraining order to continue racing as charter teams. The judge said they did not demonstrate they would be irreparably harmed without the restraining order because they will still qualify. They will be Open teams for Dover.

Preliminary injunction was not ruled on today and NASCAR told the court it will not sell the charters before that ruling. The teams told the court if the charters are sold, it would "thereby for all practical purposes end their existence as a realistic competitor in NASCAR’s Cup Series."

The judge says he didn't buy that they could lose Tyler Reddick as a result of losing their charter status for Dover because they didn't leave already.

"While Plaintiffs’ drivers could have realistically terminated their contracts with Plaintiffs and/or been lured away by other teams, that prospect (although theoretically still conceivable) appears unlikely at this late stage of the season, and Plaintiffs have not offered evidence that any drivers are intending to do so in the next two weeks

The teams’ attorney Jeffrey Kessler has released this statement:

“We are disappointed that the court declined to grant 23XI and Front Row Motorsports a temporary restraining order to allow the teams to continue racing as chartered teams. We remain confident that our motion for a preliminary injunction is legally warranted and necessary, and we look forward to the court’s full review.

The court made it clear it is only denying the temporary restraining order because NASCAR has agreed to preserve our charters until the preliminary injunction can be decided and because we are assured of qualifying all our cars the next two weeks so that there will be no irreparable harm before the preliminary injunction can be fully briefed and ruled upon.

We made the decision to bring this lawsuit to challenge NASCAR’s monopolistic practices and bullying tactics, and we are not going to let them push our teams – or others – out of the sport that they love. We are confident in the merits of our case and the teams remain focused on competing this weekend and continuing their playoff push.”