re: 2025 NASCAR Season Thread - 2025-26 Offseason

Thing is, the actual racing in cup is bad. Its not like Nascar has a great product. So for me its a no brainer they just made it easier for me to not watch out of convenience.

XFinity is actually racing these days. Its fun to watch which is the whole purpose. Cars can move. Its not all fluff like cup has become. Lots of paybacks are due this year because of drivers taking out others. Actually has some good storylines.

Trucks same as Xfinity.

There is no underlying reason for me or anyone to pay money to watch something thats been dying for decades. I’m ok with them giving me a nudge out the door. Let the new streamers have it.

Because I watched it so many years it was habit to continue. It auto recorded so was easy to watch and ff commercials. Them taking that away was the push I needed to stop watching it.

I’ve learned more about Indycar. Its less dog and pony show and showcases drivers from all over the world. Has passing. Has strategy. Has characters. Has better TV play by play commentators. Just a better product once you realize how scammy Nascar cup is.

Whatever they get in cup ratings won’t matter. They made their choice and will live with it. But for me I too made my choice and realize my time is better spent doing other things. Xfinity and Truck are enough to keep my racing satisfied.

“It was posed to be bigger” they said

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Now we know why the delay in reporting

This is their big race. And it declined big-time. The comparison to cable is telling because this race was always on big Fox.

So they lost a million viewers

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The comparison to cable is telling because this race was always on big Fox.

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The coverage on Prime was 100 times better compared to Fox. Who really cares about the ratings. The ones that wants to watch it will watch it. The ones that don’t, won’t.

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The coverage on Prime was 100 times better compared to Fox. Who really cares about the ratings. The ones that wants to watch it will watch it. The ones that don’t, won’t

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Preach!

You can cope all you want, streamers are the future. Network/Cable TV is the past


Of course the Prime broadcast trended younger, that's who NASCAR wants to grow their audience. And younger people are going to be more likely to use streamers than some old X'er/boomer who can't work a smart TV or refuses to watch the race on a streamer b/c of mUh rEaSonS

Thats a dumb argument. For every 1 younger person they lost 5 older ones. They lost the most core viewers. Those younger viewers won’t put up with the clown car and crap rulings and parades. They don’t get into the nuances of racing. They will leave fast once bored.

This was their big race. No rain delays and nothing to interfere. It will only get worse from here on out.

I’m not arguing production, sounds like it was better. But the actual racing with this car is bad. Next 4 races are way lesser races and watch viewers drop.

Prime advertised a lot and even paid big money to have Nascar most popular driver push Prime. Even had it on his car for last 2 races.

I recall how boxing died going pay per view. Racing is different than football, where its the biggest sport. Even then its done great. Nascar doesn’t have the draw that NFL does.

They just threw away their loyal customers kind of like what woke companies do. Thats what you are missing.

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What's lost in all of this gnashing of teeth over streamers are the same people complaining about them or refusing to pay to use them are the same people who have paid for cable/satellite the last quarter century.

ETA: More people have a prime subscription than cable at this point. About 10 million households more in the US

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Doesn’t your post actually work against Prime? If so many have it and yet they lost close to 1 million viewers that says a lot.

Just wait til they go to other tracks coming up. Not big like 600.

You are trying hard to justify losing close to 1 million viewers. Nothing will change how bad it is for any business to lose 25% of most loyal customers.

So what. They lost almost 1M viewers. Viewers pay the bills eventually, as advertisers need them.

What good is lowering the age when you chase core away. If I’m an advertiser and I see viewers down over 25%, I want a discount. So I offer Prime less money to run my ads. Its simple math.

As less money comes in from ads, thats less money for drivers and Nascar. But they made their greedy bed and have to deal with it.

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You are trying to cope with so many lost fans/viewers.

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They lost about the same percentage of viewers as Thursday Night Football lost when the NFL moved it exclusively to Prime. Do you think the NFL regrets that deal?

There's nothing to "cope" with after one broadcast.

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