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Posted on 5/25/25 at 9:06 pm to Cliff Booth
I would love to see him try Indy again. Not sure he could fit in the car at the moment lol
Posted on 5/26/25 at 8:27 am to jorconalx
I watched a recording of the race late last night. What an awful broadcast. Camera direction, timing tower, broadcasters, sound mixing, etc were all abysmal. Can you imagine the superbowl or world series being that bad?
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:10 am to jorconalx
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Tony Stewart in his prime, imo, is probably the most complete driver across all series.
This and it's not even close. Dude has been CHAMPION in 3 completely different styles of cars/racing. Not just competitive, CHAMPION; and he's leading the NHRA Top Fuel in points in only his sophomore season.
To think of that skill it takes to just be competitive in that many styles of racing is mind blowing but Smoke was literally champion in all those different series. Not to take anything away from Palou or any other race car driver but there's levels to this and Smoke is on a level of his own.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 11:13 am to bamarep
Mario Andretti- 4-time Indy car champ, F1 champ, Daytona 500 winner
AJ Foyt - 7-time Indy Car champ, Daytona 500 winner, Daytona 24-Hour winner, Le Mans winner, sprint car champion, 3-time USAC stock car champ, USAC Silver Crown champ
AJ Foyt - 7-time Indy Car champ, Daytona 500 winner, Daytona 24-Hour winner, Le Mans winner, sprint car champion, 3-time USAC stock car champ, USAC Silver Crown champ
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 12:30 pm to FightinTigersDammit
To be fair, that type of resume is harder to achieve today than it was then. Everything is more specialized and exclusive. Deeper fields and spec cars. F1 only seems interested in teenagers from their ladder or F1 retreads so that part is basically impossible.
And as much as I love Smoke, his IRL championship wasn’t on the same tracks and against the same field as Indycar today.
It would be pretty shocking to see anyone ever win a NASCAR and Indycar title in this era.
But I love to see guys at least try what they can and hated to see what happen yesterday with Larson. Not just for him, but that it might discourage more attempts in the future.
And as much as I love Smoke, his IRL championship wasn’t on the same tracks and against the same field as Indycar today.
It would be pretty shocking to see anyone ever win a NASCAR and Indycar title in this era.
But I love to see guys at least try what they can and hated to see what happen yesterday with Larson. Not just for him, but that it might discourage more attempts in the future.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 1:18 pm to Cliff Booth
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 1:29 pm to Cliff Booth
Seasons were shorter, too. In the 60's, Indy car and F1 seasons were 10-12 races. Drivers had to find races outside of those series.
AJ would drive Champ cars, sprint cars, NASCAR and USAC stock cars.
AJ would drive Champ cars, sprint cars, NASCAR and USAC stock cars.
This post was edited on 5/26/25 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 5/26/25 at 2:21 pm to AHM21
Posted on 5/26/25 at 6:21 pm to Cliff Booth
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And as much as I love Smoke, his IRL championship wasn’t on the same tracks and against the same field as Indycar today
Fair enough, but the dude could wheel anything he raced and not look lost doing it. For all of his different series I never thought Montoya was that good. Could be wrong though
Posted on 5/26/25 at 6:49 pm to bamarep
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This and it's not even close. Dude has been CHAMPION in 3 completely different styles of cars/racing. Not just competitive, CHAMPION; and he's leading the NHRA Top Fuel in points in only his sophomore season.
To think of that skill it takes to just be competitive in that many styles of racing is mind blowing but Smoke was literally champion in all those different series. Not to take anything away from Palou or any other race car driver but there's levels to this and Smoke is on a level of his own.
Juan Pablo Montoya over TS by a million
Monaco and a 500 Win.
TS never even won Daytona
Posted on 5/26/25 at 6:50 pm to SkiUtah420
Also Absolutely massive TV Rating- over 7M viewers, largest 500 rating since 2008- and most importantly the 500 has finally overtaken Daytona to claim its rightful place of most watched US Motor Race of the year
Posted on 5/26/25 at 7:10 pm to SkiUtah420
From the article (this was me)
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Perhaps the 500 moving to FOX, combined with the Coca-Cola 600 leaving FOX for Amazon Prime Video, played a role. With the 600 leaving broadcast television and the 500 essentially taking its place on FOX, perhaps some of the traditional NASCAR audience opted for IndyCar this year.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 8:00 pm to FightinTigersDammit
It's one thing to win a race in another series, it's something all together to be the series champion over the length of the entire season of competition.
AJ and Mario were ATGs to be sure, and JPM was good but never great in anything not open wheel.
AJ and Mario were ATGs to be sure, and JPM was good but never great in anything not open wheel.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:10 pm to bamarep
AJ and Mario both won titles in multiple series.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 9:35 pm to SkiUtah420
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Juan Pablo Montoya over TS by a million
Monaco and a 500 Win.
TS never even won Daytona
Does one REALLY want to mention JPM and Daytona in the same post?!?
Posted on 5/27/25 at 8:08 am to OU Guy
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From the article (this was me)
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Perhaps the 500 moving to FOX, combined with the Coca-Cola 600 leaving FOX for Amazon Prime Video, played a role. With the 600 leaving broadcast television and the 500 essentially taking its place on FOX, perhaps some of the traditional NASCAR audience opted for IndyCar this year.
I'm curious how the blackout being lifted in the Indianapolis area due to the sellout boosted these ratings.
I went this year and it was my first 500. I didn't really get into racing until a few years ago. I went to a NASCAR race in 2012 but I was just tagging along with friends. It was fun but I wasn't into racing so I didn't appreciate it as much as I could have.
But holy shite, the Indy 500 was just a completely different experience. That was the best sporting event I've ever been to. The energy of the sellout crowd building up to the start of the race was very palpable. I sat low in turn 4 so I got a good sense of that speed up close and I can't stop watching the couple of videos I took during the race. I definitely plan on going back in the future.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 9:22 am to Hogssmellgood
Maybe a small bump, but not huge.
Traditionally, alot of folks' post race rituals (mine included as far back as I can remember) is to watch the local race replay when you get home. The local affiliate normally starts broadcasting it around 6:30-7. Those numbers get rolled into the national nelson numbers.
Where it may have had an impact is on people who wouldn't normally watch the tape delayed broadcast.
TLDR: some impact, but not huge. I think this is Fox doing its thing and the 500 having a moment again. The buzz just felt bigger this year than usual
And yes , nothing compares to the 500. You can't shake it once you experience the first one.
This was my 27th 500 (first was in 1995 as a first grader) and I've been fortunate enough to have some amazing sporting experiences:
Member Guest at Augusta for the Masters, seeing UGA win the Rose Bowl, multiple SEC championship games, seeing the Braves clinch the pennant , multiple world series games, the Olympics, US Grand Prix (At IMS), but nothing can hold a candle to Indy. Its magic.
Traditionally, alot of folks' post race rituals (mine included as far back as I can remember) is to watch the local race replay when you get home. The local affiliate normally starts broadcasting it around 6:30-7. Those numbers get rolled into the national nelson numbers.
Where it may have had an impact is on people who wouldn't normally watch the tape delayed broadcast.
TLDR: some impact, but not huge. I think this is Fox doing its thing and the 500 having a moment again. The buzz just felt bigger this year than usual
And yes , nothing compares to the 500. You can't shake it once you experience the first one.
This was my 27th 500 (first was in 1995 as a first grader) and I've been fortunate enough to have some amazing sporting experiences:
Member Guest at Augusta for the Masters, seeing UGA win the Rose Bowl, multiple SEC championship games, seeing the Braves clinch the pennant , multiple world series games, the Olympics, US Grand Prix (At IMS), but nothing can hold a candle to Indy. Its magic.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:24 pm to SkiUtah420
My grandfather went to a few races in the 40's and 50's, so it's always been a big deal to my dad. We went for the first time in 2022. FOMO kicked in after watching it from home in 2023. We were back for the 2024 and 2025 races. Already looking forward to 2026. It is a spectacle and I can't adequately describe how incredible of an experience that weekend in Indy truly is.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 4:32 pm to jorconalx
We got a double Indycar and IMSA weekend in Detroit coming up!
Times of note:
Friday, May 30
2:00 PM - Indycar practice 1 (FS2)
3:45 - 4:30 PM - IMSA qualifying (Peacock)
Saturday, May 31
8:00 AM - Indycar practice 2 (FS1)
11:00 AM - Indycar qualfiying (FS1)
2:30 - 4:30 PM - Chevrolet Detroit Sports Car Classic on Peacock (IMSA race)
Sunday, June 1
8:30 AM - Indycar warmup (FS1)
11:30 AM - Chevrolet Detroit Grand Prix on FOX (Indycar race)
Times of note:
Friday, May 30
2:00 PM - Indycar practice 1 (FS2)
3:45 - 4:30 PM - IMSA qualifying (Peacock)
Saturday, May 31
8:00 AM - Indycar practice 2 (FS1)
11:00 AM - Indycar qualfiying (FS1)
2:30 - 4:30 PM - Chevrolet Detroit Sports Car Classic on Peacock (IMSA race)
Sunday, June 1
8:30 AM - Indycar warmup (FS1)
11:30 AM - Chevrolet Detroit Grand Prix on FOX (Indycar race)
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