re: 2024 NASCAR Season Thread - 2024-25 Offseason

You better damn well shoot straight …

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fourth described NASCAR's tactics as that of a 'communist regime

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This is braindead. It’s about as capitalistic as we can get.

And the comments about it being the only sport blah blah blah are ridiculous too. It’s a business first. A business that is invested in a sport.

As idiotic as I think NASCAR and the France’s are, don’t sign the damn agreement and go start your own league if you don’t like it.

The teams are advocating socialism.

Screw nascar and screw the teams.

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"We filed this case and we expect to win this case. One way or another, stock car racing is going to change in this country for the better."

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Good luck with that.

If they win then the clown cars will be even more equal and parades based on qualifying spot.

If they lose then expect lots of speeding tickets and other infractions including more inspections from the “random” pick lol.

This lawsuit soils the effort from all those who earned their way over years and even decades. Basically, they want DEI favors - equal outcomes not equal chances.

I am not a fan of Nascar, but this reeks of MJ thinking he can do whatever he wants. I loved him as a player, GOAT. But do not agree with this. No one is stopping him from giving money to those smaller teams. Or leaving the sport. Heck, he has a driver who could win title this year. And his team didn’t exist that long ago.

Nascsr is a private company so I think this lawsuit will get shot down

The NCAA is a private organization. That card really helped them when it came to NIL, didn’t it?

By the way, MJ’s lawyer is the guy who was behind NIL. And NFL free agency. And the US Women’s Soccer Team getting equal pay to the men.

This ain’t his first rodeo.

Brett Winningham
@NASCAR_BRETT

More fire from @LarryMac28 on @SiriusXMNASCAR in regard to the @dennyhamlin @23XIRacing Michael Jordan and @Team_FRM #NASCAR lawsuit:

"We've got an organization that's been here not even four years that all of a sudden is saying 'we gotta change the way NASCAR's run'. I'm all about change. Change is what makes you better. But you know what? When I see Richard Childress, Jake Roush, Rick Hendrick, and Joe Gibbs that's been here longer than some of these guys have been pooping yellow ... and they signed off and said this is good ... we're okay. There's things we don't like about it but we're going to do what's best for the sport and best for our business. And they signed off on it and these people that have been A. either not competitive or only been here for four and a half years have been saying the way we've done business for 76 and a half years is wrong"

NASCAR Sirius is like Pravda covering the Kremlin in the Soviet Union era as far as objectivity.

You make fair points.

I would also wager that Larry Mac and the rest of the old-school NASCAR crowd are petrified right now, maybe as much over the specter of "outsiders coming in and screwing things up" as they are of retribution from the France family. There is a clannish air around NASCAR, always has been.

Who knows how this will turn out?

But the fact that NASCAR is a private organization is absolutely meaningless here. Again, the fact that a court of law disrupted "the way things have always been" for another private, voluntary organization, the NCAA, screams volumes here.

NASCAR is facing an opponent who can pay for this out of pocket change, and is facing a lawyer who beat the NFL and the NCAA.

I would imagine there's some sweating going on in Daytona Beach. And the old-school crowd better hope Lesa France Kennedy is calling the shots on defending this, because she's the only one of Bill Jr.'s kids who has the sense of a gnat and Uncle Jim is an aged doofus.

There is zero doubt in my mind they will settle but that might take a few years and make penalties against these teams interesting.

One thing Nascar does not want to do is open their books. But there will be some punches thrown each way first. And if any TV agreements come due while litigating they may have pause to invest/extend until settled.

And you never know, the 3rd gen of France family may just cash out and sell the whole thing to MJ or someone else. I know its a declining sport based on how its being run and the clown car. They need less rules and more innovation. Cars are too closely spec’d now and it makes racing boring other than manufactured plate races.

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Plus I will guarantee you that Denny Hamlin is stirring this cauldron just as hard as Michael Jordan is.

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Like Larry McReynolds said, “ Denny never me a controversy he didn’t like.”

How much does NASCAR keep for itself?