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re: 2024 Formula 1 season Thread
Posted on 10/25/24 at 2:39 pm to s14suspense
Posted on 10/25/24 at 2:39 pm to s14suspense
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Think they had access to telemetry when they made the call they did.
They would have.
Likely going to get tossed and FIA is going to say they could have accessed whatever info they are bringing now.
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 2:42 pm to s14suspense
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Think they had access to telemetry when they made the call they did.
Exactly, so what "new" info has Mclaren supposedly found?
Maybe they should worry about how fricking shitty Lando is from Pole
Posted on 10/25/24 at 2:42 pm to BuckyCheese
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If Pinto keeps it up for the rest of the season Williams would be wise to eat Albon's contract.
Williams certainly has the luxury of doing so--pairing the veteran Sainz with the fast young guy (with possibly a lot of backing) Colapinto makes a lot of sense. But maybe Williams doesn't expect Sainz to stick around very long?
Posted on 10/25/24 at 5:19 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Osama Hamased it into the barriers.
Posted on 10/25/24 at 5:23 pm to BuckyCheese
OBR
Love when Georgie Boy screws up
Love when Georgie Boy screws up
Posted on 10/25/24 at 5:25 pm to busbeepbeep
I tuned in late, sounds like a big shunt.
Posted on 10/25/24 at 5:45 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Why don't they do this shite over summer break? Post last race, keep the teams behind one day and have Pirelli test tires.
Screws up the weekend for everyone, especially after all the reds in FP1.
Screws up the weekend for everyone, especially after all the reds in FP1.
Posted on 10/25/24 at 5:50 pm to Lsut81
They develop and learn from the tires year round. It takes time to engineer out problems
Posted on 10/25/24 at 5:54 pm to fightin tigers
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They develop and learn from the tires year round. It takes time to engineer out problems
Yeah, but they can strategically do it after certain grand prixs and not in the middle of FP1s that impact assimilation.
Or hell, add an additional session on the dates you want to test.
Posted on 10/25/24 at 6:01 pm to Lsut81
I'm looking forward to the C6 compound. I want stickier tires that are significantly faster and will give teams an optional strategy for an extra pit stop compared to the recent conventional strategies. I prefer all races to be a choice between two and three stops, not one and two stops.
Posted on 10/25/24 at 6:17 pm to Lsut81
They do that. There are tire tests throughout the season.
Then the teams piss and moan because one team gets an advantage another doesn't. And drivers don't want to stick around GPs longer than they have to.
Then the teams piss and moan because one team gets an advantage another doesn't. And drivers don't want to stick around GPs longer than they have to.
Posted on 10/25/24 at 6:19 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
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. I prefer all races to be a choice between two and three stops, not one and two stops
Have to make pit stop deltas less to get that. Or allow more sets of tires.
This post was edited on 10/25/24 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 10/25/24 at 6:45 pm to fightin tigers
Pato O'Ward throwing some shade on Russell in the post FP2 show.
Pato said he was instructed very clearly to not push it in that complex where Russell crashed.
Pato said he was instructed very clearly to not push it in that complex where Russell crashed.
Posted on 10/25/24 at 9:01 pm to BuckyCheese
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Watch the replay from Albon's car. He lost it when he hit the curb.
The curb didn't upset the car. Albon came around that corner, saw Bearman slow down and occupy his track out point. Albon lifted and unloaded the rear suspension and it came around. He almost gathered it up, but another wobble and bang. Normally the arse end would have been planted there under full acceleration.
It was just bad luck and bad timing.
That's my take.
Posted on 10/25/24 at 11:57 pm to Pitt Road
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It was just bad luck and bad timing.
That's my take
Yep. You could argue Olli should have been on the other side, but he was probably 90% alright for practice.
If it is quali Ollie likely collects a penalty.
Also, McLaren protest dismissed. They argued that Lando got ahead in the braking zone and therefore didn't overtake off track, as he was already ahead.
I mean, true maybe, but nothing the stewards didn't know. When does a pass actually start and complete
This post was edited on 10/26/24 at 12:33 am
Posted on 10/26/24 at 1:12 am to Pitt Road
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The curb didn't upset the car. Albon came around that corner, saw Bearman slow down and occupy his track out point. Albon lifted and unloaded the rear suspension and it came around. He almost gathered it up, but another wobble and bang. Normally the arse end would have been planted there under full acceleration.
It was just bad luck and bad timing.
My take was a little bit different, I thought Albon lost control because he was still going 10/10th while taking too much curb to try to get inside of Bearman while staying on a hot lap. After reading your take, I went back and cranked the volume and watched the video a few more times. From the cockpit view, at the moment he loses the rear end, it sounds to me like the engine revs go up briefly until he chops the throttle, causing him to highside into Bearman. I thought maybe his steering wheel might reveal some evidence, so I went through it frame-by-frame, and here's what I saw. In the top picture below, he has just started to lose control. In the bottom picture, as he starts to correct for the oversteer, you can see on the steering wheel that his revs have gone up, so I think he was on-throttle. Plus I think going from on-throttle to off-throttle during the rear end slide better explains the violent highside. Of course this is a minor point. There's no question Bearman impeded him, the question is whether in free practice Albon should have been more careful since the laps don't count and he clearly knew Bearman was there.
So anyway, after watching the video a few times, I finally understood what Bearman was thinking! The first replay I watched (while watching FP2 live) was from Bearman's in-car camera pointing backwards. I could hear the engine revs going down as he got to the exit of the corner (right side of the track). So I was wondering why the hell was he decelerating on the racing line as he knew Albon was behind him. I thought he should have taken that corner tight and went to the left side of the track. But after watching the video posted on the previous page a few times, I finally noticed that there was another right turn coming up very quickly, and Bearman stayed right because the approach to the next corner was on the left side of the track! By staying right, he was in the process of getting off the racing line; the problem is that Albon caught up to him quicker than Bearman realized.
So I agree with you, it was just bad luck and bad timing, and I agree with fightin tigers that if it was qualy, Bearman would have been penalized.
Posted on 10/26/24 at 1:41 am to fightin tigers
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Also, McLaren protest dismissed. They argued that Lando got ahead in the braking zone and therefore didn't overtake off track, as he was already ahead.
I mean, true maybe, but nothing the stewards didn't know. When does a pass actually start and complete
Man I hate the over-policing of basic racing moves. Having people judging and issuing penalties can easily lead to unequal treatment. I think two or three drivers got penalized for being the inside guy and not giving the outside guy room at the exit of the corner. Duh! When you are accelerating hard out of a corner your car naturally goes to the outside edge of the track. If the inside guy has to ease up on the throttle so that he can leave space for the guy on the outside, then the outside guy will win every time. It's so stupid to police the driving of the inside guy. Stuffing a guy on the inside is a classic racing move. And doing the over/under is the classic counter move. The outside guy should not be able to expect room on the track at the exit of the corner. And if you leave the track because you insisted on being side-by-side with the inside guy, then you need to let the inside guy be ahead of you when you get back on track, every time.
Posted on 10/26/24 at 10:35 am to TouchedTheAxeIn82
When is fp3
This post was edited on 10/26/24 at 10:37 am
Posted on 10/26/24 at 10:43 am to UncleFestersLegs
12:30 central
Posted on 10/26/24 at 12:22 pm to BuckyCheese
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