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re: 2023 NASCAR Season Thread - 2023-24 Offseason
Posted on 11/8/23 at 9:24 am to SteelerBravesDawg
Posted on 11/8/23 at 9:24 am to SteelerBravesDawg
Gustafson is a good CC. But every championship pairing eventually needs a split. Only question becomes where does Gustafson go and who takes over for Elliott? Fugle and Daniels aren't leaving their current drivers, and Blake Harris isn't leaving Bowman after 3/4 of a season.
If Gustafson becomes a free agent, Stewart-Haas needs to jump on it. They need fresh blood
If Gustafson becomes a free agent, Stewart-Haas needs to jump on it. They need fresh blood
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 12:57 pm to MikeHoncho47
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Gustafson is a good CC.
Oh I agree. It seemed that when it went south, it was a precipitous drop.
Wonder who else is in the stable over at HMS to run a team? Maybe someone from JRM maybe?
ETA: See if you can pry Rodney Childers from the 4 team. He's the best in the business IMO. He makes chicken salad out of chicken shite and his strategy calls and adjustments are always on the money.
This post was edited on 11/8/23 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 11/8/23 at 2:23 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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ETA: See if you can pry Rodney Childers from the 4 team. He's the best in the business IMO. He makes chicken salad out of chicken shite and his strategy calls and adjustments are always on the money.
Childers appears to be staying with SHR for the foreseeable future. He and Berry are teaming up soon for some late model races to get their pairing started up and ironed out before next season.
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Rodney Childers @RodneyChilders4 · Nov 7 It’s incredible to get @joshberry to hop in and drive the 62 for @KHIManagement .. It’s the first moment in a huge relationship between all of us. As of this second, I’m not sure I will make Hickory. We already had family vacation plans. But I’ll be at Florence and Kenly.. Quote FloRacing @FloRacing · Nov 6 "@joshberry will kick off his relationship with new crew chief @RodneyChilders4 with LMSC races at Hickory and Florence the next two weeks.
This post was edited on 11/8/23 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 11/8/23 at 4:35 pm to BayouBengal51
Guess this answers some questions from a couple pages ago
Posted on 11/8/23 at 4:41 pm to tWildcat
All of them Gibbs too.
I always laugh at Gibbs cutting Joey loose.
I wish Eric Jones could have the same success.
I always laugh at Gibbs cutting Joey loose.
I wish Eric Jones could have the same success.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 5:07 pm to tWildcat
US races TV viewership
Posted on 11/8/23 at 5:25 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
Well crap, second time today it deleted my post during the submit phase. Will do it later
This post was edited on 11/8/23 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 11/9/23 at 5:37 am to OU Guy
Very cool chart
I guess no one was into the NH race. Haha.
I guess no one was into the NH race. Haha.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 5:51 am to Tigertown in ATL
I’m usually not into the NH races either lol
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:21 am to tWildcat
Ah but I see now, MI, Dover and NH were all Monday races.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:59 am to Tigertown in ATL
Posted on 11/9/23 at 10:17 am to SteelerBravesDawg
I typed up a reply yesterday and hit submit and it just vanished with some type of board issue. Trying again.
I do think it might be good to change CC but at the same time it was a lost year. The worst part was losing the annual winning streak.
But nascar made a lot of car changes off season. He went out with broken leg pretty early in season and lost all that time to work on car to adjust to his style, where others had time. Even when back it takes time to readjust with a healing leg.
Came back and was just starting to do better and whiney tattle tell Hamlin got him suspended. (The power steering failure that cost Hamlin finals was karma).
So at this point he comes back from suspension and has to win to get in but is lacking the car and development time. Still ran pretty good but not enough to win.
So once playoffs started he was out of drivers but his car owner was in since the alternate drivers count for owners points. HMS 9 got in over 23 car (owners).
Then he did ok and made it to final 12 in owners. Not sure if they made final 8 owners but at that point the focus went to 5 and 24 and you can be assured shop resources focused on those 2.
Once they focused on 5/24 then both 9/48 were not getting their best cars as its expensive to engineer and bring top cars. So they just gave them average cars and focused on the final 4 cars of 5/24. I don’t put a lot of stock into the last 1/3rd of season due to how it played out.
I can see them sticking with Gus one more year. Chase likes him so that likely weighs in too. And with all the events it was a throw away year where HMS likely keeps Gus with 9.
I do think it might be good to change CC but at the same time it was a lost year. The worst part was losing the annual winning streak.
But nascar made a lot of car changes off season. He went out with broken leg pretty early in season and lost all that time to work on car to adjust to his style, where others had time. Even when back it takes time to readjust with a healing leg.
Came back and was just starting to do better and whiney tattle tell Hamlin got him suspended. (The power steering failure that cost Hamlin finals was karma).
So at this point he comes back from suspension and has to win to get in but is lacking the car and development time. Still ran pretty good but not enough to win.
So once playoffs started he was out of drivers but his car owner was in since the alternate drivers count for owners points. HMS 9 got in over 23 car (owners).
Then he did ok and made it to final 12 in owners. Not sure if they made final 8 owners but at that point the focus went to 5 and 24 and you can be assured shop resources focused on those 2.
Once they focused on 5/24 then both 9/48 were not getting their best cars as its expensive to engineer and bring top cars. So they just gave them average cars and focused on the final 4 cars of 5/24. I don’t put a lot of stock into the last 1/3rd of season due to how it played out.
I can see them sticking with Gus one more year. Chase likes him so that likely weighs in too. And with all the events it was a throw away year where HMS likely keeps Gus with 9.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:20 am to OU Guy
A couple of takeaways for me on this graphic:
1. Clearly, Cup races going against football is a nonstarter; Cup viewership drops precipitously. All of the most watched races for Nascar, other than the Chicago street race, were Spring races on Fox.
2. I am surprised to see the Fontana race get such high numbers and just makes me even more mad that they are tearing that track down. Maybe the nostalgic element played into the high numbers this year (and the track itself had good attendance this year), but I really enjoyed going to that track and watching the races there. Tearing it down for a short track (if they build it at all), no thanks IMO.
1. Clearly, Cup races going against football is a nonstarter; Cup viewership drops precipitously. All of the most watched races for Nascar, other than the Chicago street race, were Spring races on Fox.
2. I am surprised to see the Fontana race get such high numbers and just makes me even more mad that they are tearing that track down. Maybe the nostalgic element played into the high numbers this year (and the track itself had good attendance this year), but I really enjoyed going to that track and watching the races there. Tearing it down for a short track (if they build it at all), no thanks IMO.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:23 am to OU Guy
I can't disagree w/any of this, especially:
frick Denny.
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Came back and was just starting to do better and whiney tattle tell Hamlin got him suspended. (The power steering failure that cost Hamlin finals was karma).
frick Denny.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:02 pm to SDwhodat
Fontana used to be a sleep fest. It took years to weather the track in where it was racey. But like all tracks at some point they would have needed to repave and then it would have went back to sleepfest.
They are building a short track but with new pavement it too will take time to weather in.
They are building a short track but with new pavement it too will take time to weather in.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:06 pm to OU Guy
Only open seats left in cup are the 10, 16, and one of the Rick Ware seats.
SHR is likely putting Gragson in the 10..... Other than funding this makes zero sense.
Kaulig is considering bumping Allmendinger back to Xfinity for Ty Dillon... That makes even less sense.
Rick Ware may just go with a revolving door for now in the second car.
SHR is likely putting Gragson in the 10..... Other than funding this makes zero sense.
Kaulig is considering bumping Allmendinger back to Xfinity for Ty Dillon... That makes even less sense.
Rick Ware may just go with a revolving door for now in the second car.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:17 pm to MikeHoncho47
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Other than funding this makes zero sense.
So it makes total sense
Posted on 11/9/23 at 1:52 pm to MikeHoncho47
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SHR is likely putting Gragson in the 10..... Other than funding this makes zero sense.
Are you not familiar with the business side of NASCAR? Noah is getting the ride due to funding.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 2:07 pm to broadhead
Been following since 97. Of course I'm familiar. I remember when teams hired the drivers they wanted. Instead of the biggest checkbook.
Noah didn't get this ride on talent. Cole Custer brings no funding. Neither did Zane Smith. Both were more deserving.
Noah put together one of the worst rookie seasons any of us have ever seen. And yet he's getting a better ride due to the checkbook. It's a problem.
Noah didn't get this ride on talent. Cole Custer brings no funding. Neither did Zane Smith. Both were more deserving.
Noah put together one of the worst rookie seasons any of us have ever seen. And yet he's getting a better ride due to the checkbook. It's a problem.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 3:23 pm to OU Guy
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Came back and was just starting to do better and whiney tattle tell Hamlin got him suspended. (The
Chastain was starting to make racing exciting again when the milk toast mafia (entire Hendricks team) put the heat on.
Ya so frick them.
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