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re: 2023 NASCAR Season Thread - 2023-24 Offseason

Posted on 2/6/23 at 11:02 am to
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 11:02 am to
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It’s as bad as when they used to interview Dale Jr during those couple years where he was terrible, only could run good at Daytona and Talladega. It was sad how they would interview him all the damn time.


I agree it was overkill with DJR but come on lets be realistic here on comparision (there is none).

His grandfather and dad were staples of the sport and you think they will ignore him? The Earnhardt legacy is a key part of the sport.

Bubba Walrus is a backmarker who only has a top ride because of diversity not driving talent. And they interview and pimp his imagine soley because of diversity. They interviewed and pushed Dale Jr because of his heritage to the sport. Dale Sr was the Michael J of car racing so of course his son will get lots of interviews. And especially after what happened to Dale Sr. They are not even in the same league yet TV pimps Bubba Walrus loke he’s a star with deep familial roots in Nascar.

Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 11:25 am to
Yeah Junior IS NASCAR. W/o him I doubt NASCAR would really struggle to stay around.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 12:28 pm to
Was listening to some stuff on the disagreement between NASCAR and the RTA. Is there a real possibility of a split going into 2024 and owners using the SRX model to hold exhibition races?
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 12:31 pm to
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Was listening to some stuff on the disagreement between NASCAR and the RTA. Is there a real possibility of a split going into 2024 and owners using the SRX model to hold exhibition races?


The problem with a split is that ISC/NASCAR owns all of the big tracks. While it would be good racing, a split off series would have to compete on regional short tracks. NASCAR would not let them use any of the ISC tracks for sure. I'm not sure how a split series would survive with tracks that can't fit a lot of seats in the stands.
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 12:42 pm to
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I agree it was overkill with DJR but come on lets be realistic here on comparision (there is none). His grandfather and dad were staples of the sport and you think they will ignore him? The Earnhardt legacy is a key part of the sport. Bubba Walrus is a backmarker who only has a top ride because of diversity not driving talent. And they interview and pimp his imagine soley because of diversity. They interviewed and pushed Dale Jr because of his heritage to the sport. Dale Sr was the Michael J of car racing so of course his son will get lots of interviews. And especially after what happened to Dale Sr. They are not even in the same league yet TV pimps Bubba Walrus loke he’s a star with deep familial roots in Nascar.


Oh hold up, I was and still am a big Dale Jr fan. I’m in no way comparing their careers and history in the sport or anything like that.

I’m comparing how the media couldn’t/can’t help themselves.

With Junior, he was a 25th place car for a solid 2 or 3 years and it was CONSTANT what’s going on with Junior coverage.

Now with Bubba, no matter where he finishes, it’s constant what happened, look he ran good, etc.

Strictly comparing time devoted to each subject by the media, nothing else.
Posted by TigerFred
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 12:48 pm to
I get your point about ISC, but SMS owns a significant number of tracks and a few other independents that could potentially be used outside of small regional tracks.

I don’t see any type of split happening. The big money would come from a TV deal and track capacities wouldn’t be the major factor.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
29957 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 12:59 pm to
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Oh hold up, I was and still am a big Dale Jr fan. I’m in no way comparing their careers and history in the sport or anything like that. I’m comparing how the media couldn’t/can’t help themselves. With Junior, he was a 25th place car for a solid 2 or 3 years and it was CONSTANT what’s going on with Junior coverage. Now with Bubba, no matter where he finishes, it’s constant what happened, look he ran good, etc. Strictly comparing time devoted to each subject by the media, nothing else.


I get what you are saying but my point is they had reasons to interview DJR. They were catering to their fanbase as well. After DSR died it was a blow to the sport and everyone - no matter who you were a fan of - felt for DJR. So even in bad times he was still a hige fan favorite and it made sense for TV to cater to him.

Contrast that to Bubba Walrus. He milked the fake noose deal and pushes BLM and other radical groups and TV is purely pushing him for a woke agenda. Thats it. It has nothing to do with ties to the sport of catering to their fanbase, its pure diversity pimping.

What TV is going to find out is it takes a huge time investment to follow the sport. New fangled fans are like the old club scenes. A club gets packed and is the place to be. After a few years their crowd dwindles. Not because they did anything wrong but clubbers are fickle and found a new fave club. And the same thing will happen as they cater to the diversity crowd. They will never invest the time to be true fans. I bet half the crowd came out last night just to see the music and got bored watching the race. It was less crowd than last year too.

Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
5083 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 1:34 pm to
Horrible event yesterday. How much better would the sport be without trying to kiss the arse of every demographic in the country. None of those are interested in true stock car racing. Lets get back to real racing this week. True fans want to see racing and not all the bull shite.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
29957 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 2:36 pm to
Check out this stat:

Ryan Preece led more laps tonight (43) than Cole Custer did in his entire career driving the NASCAR Cup Series No. 41 for Stewart-Haas Racing. (29 laps led in 108 starts)
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
29957 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 2:41 pm to
GWEN STEFANI: So did the cars that didn't make the Clash make it back to North Carolina already

CLINT: No. Ain't no hauler back, girl
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:53 pm to
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Ryan Preece led more laps tonight (43) than Cole Custer did in his entire career driving the NASCAR Cup Series No. 41 for Stewart-Haas Racing. (29 laps led in 108 starts)


Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51716 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 4:10 pm to
Kyle Busch was detained in Mexico in January while on vacation for bringing a gun into the country. He says it was a mistake and that he had forgotten the gun was in the bag. A statement from local authorities there says he was sentenced to 3.5 years in jail and fined.

Statement from Kyle Busch:

This post was edited on 2/6/23 at 4:14 pm
Posted by tWildcat
Verona, KY
Member since Oct 2014
20236 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 4:14 pm to
So he shouldn’t be going back to Mexico anytime soon
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 4:23 pm to
At least he didn't drink the water.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
29957 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 4:48 pm to
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So he shouldn’t be going back to Mexico anytime soon


He better hope nascar doesn’t move a race there while he’s active driver.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52562 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 6:07 pm to
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Horrible event yesterday. How much better would the sport be without trying to kiss the arse of every demographic in the country. None of those are interested in true stock car racing. Lets get back to real racing this week. True fans want to see racing and not all the bull shite.


This

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The average speed during the "race" was TWENTY ONE fricking miles per hour.

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How in the blue hell is anyone supposed to get excited about that? I think most people dug the heat style format but do it at somewhere like Martinsville, Wilkesboro, or hell even somewhere like Myrtle Beach if they want to spotlight a smaller venue.

They created a race track inside a fricking football stadium................and that's exactly what it looked like. A gimmick.

And as far as a split, it's inevitable if NASCAR doesn't get it's head out of it's arse. It's catering it's product to blue hair liberals and minorities and it's going to have predictable results.

Personally, I could give two shits about minority drivers as long as they've EARNED their way into their ride. But to totally forget the major demographic in this country that put your sport on the map is not only stupid, it's bad business.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 6:09 pm to
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hell even somewhere like Myrtle Beach


Oh honey…
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52562 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 6:13 pm to
I've never been to that track, but it can't be much worse than that clownshow they showed yesterday.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 6:14 pm to
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I've never been to that track, but it can't be much worse than that clownshow they showed yesterday.


It’s an empty field.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52562 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 6:15 pm to
Granted, but I bet the racing would be better.
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