re: 2023 NASCAR Season Thread - 2023-24 Offseason

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low IQ section of the fanbase

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HMS/Chase fans?

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Ross is really running out of friends. He got Rowdy riled up earlier then Noah. Cheap shot by Ross then hid behind other men. He doesn’t realize these drivers all going to make his life hard on track. Why is he always involved in racing ssues, like every week. Success has went to his head, he’s no longer humble and it will cost him for years to come.

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First, I don't know if I'd call it a cheap shot. As was pointed out, Noah grabbed him first and Ross told him to stop. That big dude got between them as soon as Ross popped him, too.

Second, Denny said on his podcast a week or two ago that Ross is good about taking whatever payback you give him on the track, and he'll say "yeah I deserved that". That still hasn't changed his racing style, and he's currently the points leader, so it seems like he doesn't mind if other drivers want to make life hard for him.

Interestingly, Ryan McGee tweeted this out last night...

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Ryan McGee
@ESPNMcGee
I’ve been covering NASCAR a long time. So many versions of one guy vs the world. Right now it’s Ross Chastain vs the world. FWIW long term it usually works out pretty well for the one guy.

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Maybe things won't work out for Chastain, but McGee isn't necessarily wrong. Just look at the cheers Kyle Busch has received this year as a recent example.

Ross took a cheap shot. Noah was just grabbing his uni and holding it. Ross knew if he cheap shot him people would step in so he took advantage of it. Punk behavior.

I loved him when he first came on scene, a watermelon farmer who was chasing his dream. Very humble and worked hard at it. Got skme breaks and moved his way up.

But the past 2 years he’s just turned into a punk. Has no respect for drivers on track. Its take take take bit never give. Time will tell but you can’t make enemies of the entire field and hope to win a title. I recall Newman made a lot of enemies and in his last Chase got punted out by Tony. Newman made it hard to pass and cost a few drivers races as they were trying to pass him a lap down. It came back to bite him.

Noah can be a punk too, but at least he stuck up for his team. As year winds on it will be fun to watch other drivers give Ross no slack even if laps down. He has pissed off most drivers and the piper will come calling. There is still some form of respect that is expected in the sport and he isn’t earnng any.

Rowdy was disliked because he was winning when fans wanted Dale Jr to win. After Dale Sr passed most fans had sympathy for Dale Jr and rooted for hm and Rowdy got in the way. And he had beefs too, but not with most drivers it was a lot less.

Lots of season to play out and we have Darlington and Rockingham next 2 races which are tough racetracks. Nascar has to love it though. But ironically without the Ross/Noah dustup people would be talking about the great race, best in a long time. But the mini fight is all the talk instead.

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Lots of season to play out and we have Darlington and Rockingham next 2 races which are tough racetracks. Nascar has to love it though. But ironically without the Ross/Noah dustup people would be talking about the great race, best in a long time. But the mini fight is all the talk instead.

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Think you meant wilkesboro.
As far as a cheap shot goes, Noah gets in Ross’s face and grabs his fire suit. He instigated that and Ross just hit him first. Noah has a reputation for not being afraid to throw a punch so I’d imagine he wasn’t just going to chat. At least he took his helmet off.

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Some drivers are told by the people signing the checks not to drive like Ross does. Some just don't have the chest. Some do a cost-benefit analysis and decide it isn't worth it. Ross rammed himself into a wall and gassed it to make the championship, he just has that mentality. People with a lower "self-preservation" instinct aren't gonna muzzle it, maybe they can't even if they wanted to, and he flat out doesn't care if he makes other drivers mad. It’s incredible for the sport.

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I admire his don’t give a shite what people think mentality. Does his aggressive screw ups gets old at times? Yes but like you said, he has shown that he will do whatever it takes to win. He is a villain among the drivers and with some fans. NASCAR needs villains and drama.

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Ross took a cheap shot. Noah was just grabbing his uni and holding it. Ross knew if he cheap shot him people would step in so he took advantage of it. Punk behavior.

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Again, I disagree. Noah put his hands on Ross and Ross told him to stop. Ross popped him. Wasn’t cheap as Noah was starting to get aggressive with Ross. You put your hands and don’t stop then you are setting yourself up for something like that. Most of these fights never involve into a lot because of security and officials. Ross wasn’t hiding.

Last week he took out Brennen Poole which took out Larson. This week he dusted up with Rowdy and then Noah. Don’t forget Denny fine was due to Ross. And every week he’s taking drivers out or not racing respectfully and pushing other cars around.

Heck, maybe Nascar is paying him for every hit kinda like swig points. Or maybe he doesn’t have the talent to race clean. Dale Sr would have taken care of the problem by now so it will be interesting to see who steps up.

I don’t think he touched Noah when he hit the wall. He ran him hard and up the track.

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Don’t forget Denny fine was due to Ross.

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Denny was fined due to Denny.