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Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:01 am to
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:01 am to
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Lewis is not the number two driver at Mercedes.
would anyone bet on Ichabod against Lewis head to head?
Posted by 225rumpshaker
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:19 am to
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would anyone bet on Ichabod against Lewis head to head?
Guess it depends on what I am betting….

Crashing into someone going into turn one? You betcha Russell all day

Over the course of a race? No way still taking Lewis, Russell got pretty lucky with his safety car gambles last year.
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:44 am to
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would anyone bet on Ichabod against Lewis head to head?

Man, love him or hate him Lewis an all-time great. Even now. Sure, Russell is very talented, but come on.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 9:09 am to
George will probably get all the tools together soon. Not sure he ever lives up to the hype put on him when he was slumming it at Williams.

Maybe Bottas kept his seat for so long because Toto saw more than everyone
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 9:29 am to
Other than Max being a guaranteed runaway, and my driver fading, this was a pretty enjoyable race. Maybe because the cancelled race and Monaco putting me to sleep, anything would be enjoyable.

Ferrari is driving me crazy with their pace. Pretty bad that LeClerc couldn't make his way up into the points and only passed up guess he should have had ease passing. Alpine actually looked better than Ferrari.

I'd interested to see if this is actually what reality is for Aston Martin. If they are actually a top 2-3 or more of a 4-5 team.

Another random thing. The more I see the McLaren the more I like the look of it.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 9:53 am to
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Man, love him or hate him Lewis an all-time great. Even now. Sure, Russell is very talented, but come on.
Russell has outscored Lewis since the start of 2022, so I don't think it's a crazy question.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:02 am to
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George will probably get all the tools together soon. Not sure he ever lives up to the hype put on him when he was slumming it at Williams.


The driver hype train is always moving, but its like any other sports. It's sooo rare to find a Schumacher, Hamilton, or Verstappen. The ability to put in performance lap after lap, offer meaningful information to the team for development, make changes in race, manage tires, etc.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:03 am to
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Russell has outscored Lewis since the start of 2022, so I don't think it's a crazy question.


It's also widely known that Hamilton took on most of the development work for Mercedes.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:45 am to

So this was some good news for Mercedes, but it turns out that Hamilton had DRS down the main straight on this lap and pulled an extra .4.

Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:57 am to
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It's also widely known that Hamilton took on most of the development work for Mercedes.

That's definitely fair.

My only take is not to say that Russell having more points means he's better right now, I just mean it to say it's not some crazy thought that should be immediately dismissed IMO.
This post was edited on 6/5/23 at 11:05 am
Posted by barry
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:11 am to
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My only take is not to say that Russell having more points means he's better right now, I just mean it to say it's not some crazy thought that should be immediately dismissed IMO.


yea, i think Mercedes and everyone involved in doing a good job so far managing the situation, it actually helps they don't have a competitive car as if they aren't fighting for wins and barely podiums then things can't get that contentious
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:44 am to
That quali incident would have been explosive had they had they been truly competitive this year.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 3:35 pm to
If checo did that to max, jos might actually choke him out in the garage. I still think its huge. You can blame merc for not giving George enough info I guess but his fricking car has mirrors for a reason
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 3:54 pm to
The post-quali show really showed how bad Merc screwed it up. Put their drivers out together then did a shite job of warning the drivers what the other was doing.
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 4:01 pm to
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[OffTrack] Christian Horner almost left Red Bull at the end of the 2022 season to replace Mattia Binotto at Ferrari, says Helmut Marko! "It took me a whole night to convince Horner to stay at Red Bull. And it cost us millions more."


LINK


hope that makes the next season of DTS
This post was edited on 6/5/23 at 4:03 pm
Posted by barry
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 5:08 pm to
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"It took me a whole night to convince Horner to stay at Red Bull. And it cost us millions more."


Christian is not going anywhere he just finessed the frick out of RB, rightfully so.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 6:32 pm to
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jos might actually choke him out in the garage.


I've been waiting for this to happen.
Posted by TexasTiger33
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:14 pm to
currently watching F3 - amazing racing
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 8:48 am to
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Russell has outscored Lewis since the start of 2022, so I don't think it's a crazy question.
I think Lewis was still fuming internally in 2022 that Mercedes did not take the results of Abu Dhabi to court. Lewis had the championship in his grasp and a huge lead over Max. The way it ended was technically wrong, and Max getting to change tires was a huge advantage. Lewis got royally fricked. Made for exciting finish, though.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
54427 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:33 am to
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Lewis got royally fricked.

Lots of people on here letting their bias ignore this fact.
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