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re: 2003: The Year College Football Failed

Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:48 pm to
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
21518 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:48 pm to
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Hey, their the #1 scoring defense, we (Oklahoma) is the #1 total defense.

I'm pretty sure by the end of the game LSU wound up with the #1 total defense too. But, yes, Stoops was showing his arse.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
7721 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 10:31 pm to
Yep, LSU finished the 2003 season #1 in both total (255.4 YAPG) and scoring (11.3 PAPG).
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71136 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 3:21 am to
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2003 could've been LSU USCw if the media could've gotten their head out of their arse and admitted they had overrated OU and voted that way in the polls.



The pollsters couldn't have justified dropping Oklahoma any lower than third in the rankings considering everyone from #4 on down had two losses or more.

The final poll on December 7, 2003, looked like this:

1. USC (42) 11-1
2. LSU (21) 12-1
3. Oklahoma (2) 12-1
4. Michigan 10-2
5. Texas 10-2
6. Tennessee 10-2
7. Ohio State 10-2
8. Kansas State 11-3
9. Florida State 10-2
10. Miami (FL) 10-2

What truly blows my mind is that, even after losing by 28 points in the Big 12 Championship Game, Oklahoma still got two first place votes in the final AP Poll of the regular season.
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
8418 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 7:38 am to
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Keith Jackson


Also said…

“LSU and Oklahoma will play Sunday night for the computer championship.”

Literal quote.

No Keith, they’ll play for the championship via the criteria all these schools agreed to.

He’ll always be the voice of CFB but his bias and grumpiness were evident those last few years. He was clearly disappointed when Texas beat USC and it was obvious.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
59072 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 12:10 pm to
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tTurtleneck with the LSU logo embroidered



tGOAT
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39414 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 3:37 pm to
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quote:
Keith Jackson


Also said…

“LSU and Oklahoma will play Sunday night for the computer championship.”



Dude, every media pundit and publication was using the "computer" delineation between the two champ games because that's how the #1 team in the Country in both human Polls got snubbed by the BCS,algorithm...the Computers!

So it stands to reason that people then saw the BCS Champion as the ""Computer champion" ...it wasn't just Keith Jackson. Newspapers and magazines latched onto the one thing people struggled with..."why isn't the #1 ranked team in the Country playing for the BCS,Title?

So it morphed into the BCS game being labeled the nonhuman factor game...and the media ran with it. People weren't going to just "accept it" because it made no historical or human sense...and it pissed LSU fans off something awful.

You had #1 playing #4 in the Rose Bowl and #2 playing #3 in the Sugar...we technically had our first playoff all set up perfectly... We just didn't have the deciding game.

This post was edited on 3/13/26 at 3:43 pm
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33818 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 4:23 pm to
That guy, like most of the country during the BCS era, concentrated too much on the offensive stars from the season. Defense was still what won championships back then. Nobody played it like the SEC did.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33818 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 4:36 pm to
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No, OSU had a way better argument to be in the game. Stop it. Yes, Bama won the mulligan they were gifted based solely off their name, but that doesn't change any of the actual facts.
The worst part of that whole situation was Les Miles being too much of a players coach. He empathized with them, when he should have been telling them to shut up and get ready for the game. When I read the paper the morning of the game, and saw LSU players were complaining about having to play Bama again, I knew they were going to lose. Les should have nipped those complaints in the bud as soon as they started talking that sh*t. Instead he let it fester.

Man up, shut up and play ball.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30102 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 4:57 pm to
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tPullover


quote:

tTurtleneck with the LSU logo embroidered


Pre-Geaux font…I dig it. I wish LSU would use the helmet font on merch.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30102 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 5:04 pm to
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CFB didn't realize they had a good thing, in its messiness, ambiguity and quest for the MNC which entailed a myriad of factors beyond a team's control. Controversy sells because it creates endless discussion. But CFB caved to the cries of the pro football crowd, demanding order and fairness in a decidedly disorganized, loosely governed sport. The endless playoff model and continuous tinkering has robbed CFB of its untidy beauty which made it unique and special among other "Pro" sports alternatives. When the Title was mythical, the sport was legendary...we'll never have it so good again.


This all day.

It’s a quest for “perfection”. Oddly enough, that quest for perfection is killing the entertainment value in sports.

As a fan, we get delays for reviews, boring gameplay spearheaded by analytics, and soon enough…robo-umps. Discussing a shitty ump like Angel Hernandez was entertaining. It sells. Controversy sells…whether it’s the NOLA No-Call or the BCS, Eric Gregg’s strike zone or a ticky-tac foul call. We’ve been told it’s entertainment…so why this obsession to water it all down and make everything a simulation?
This post was edited on 3/13/26 at 5:04 pm
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30102 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 5:10 pm to
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I still get irrationally angry when I think of Pete Carroll saying smugly to the reporter on the field right after beating Michigan in the Rose Bowl: "I think we just won a National Championship". frick him for the rest of his life.


That last sentence is a little harsh.

As an employee of USC, he was acting in his best interests, and those of the guys he coached. It didn’t cost LSU anything. I’m not bothered by a “split” title. Again, CFB history was always controversial. The BCS didn’t solve anything, just created a system to crown the champion of the Coaches Poll.
Posted by BayouPride
Member since Sep 2006
999 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 11:14 pm to
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Ironically though, LSU losing in the SECCG could've possibly hurt Bama's resume enough to where it actually would've been LSU vs Ok St.


This is true. Of course we didn’t want to lose but bizarrely LSU beating Georgia twice, double hurt LSU. It added losses to the team we beat in UGA. Both of our victories over them were lessened. The number crunchers were saying that we needed a non-Georgia team from the SEC East to play in Atlanta. They changed that rule eventually.
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