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re: 17th Annual CSAA (Formerly CSAL) 8th Grade Basketball Preseason Rankings
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:48 am to Section102
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:48 am to Section102
Their coach was once a student under Phil Jackson. They run triangle on offense.
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 9:06 am to CaptainJ47
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Does sacred heart even still have a team?
Typically they do. They have a 6th and 7th grade team, but don't have an 8th grade this year due to lack of numbers.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 2:02 pm to TigerCage1
Mercy is currently 5-0 in league play with wins over St Theresa, St Alphonsus, CHS, Holy Family and St Thomas More. 5 left to play vs MBS, Aloysius, St Jude, St John and St George. And I agree that the top 5 teams are pretty interchangeable. Injuries and illnesses are starting to mount for many of the teams.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:41 pm to MNCscripper
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Heard 4 coaches were ejected during the tournament
And a dad.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 3:11 pm to ellesssuuu
Based on prevailing winds that week, some fumes from the Gardere area must have made their way to Highland Rd creating a higher than normal hostile environment. Everything started going downhill once the first college scout had seen enough and left early. With the threat of their little Lebrons missing their free ride, things started heating up. When not a single scout showed up the 2nd day, the pot boiled over, devolving into something akin to Mad Max and the Thunderdome. I think the final tally was 2 coaches (one of whom received 6 techs in the end) and 14 parents were shown the door never to return and forced to wander the wastelands of South Baton Rouge.
Rumors are that next year’s tourney will include a dose of Xanax with paid admission and a plexiglass barrier will be installed.
Rumors are that next year’s tourney will include a dose of Xanax with paid admission and a plexiglass barrier will be installed.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 2:17 pm to The Next
As a parent of an 8th grader on one of these CSAA teams I agree with the rankings that have been periodically updated and commented on since January for the most part. The top 1-5 teams are all similar and it reminds me of the NBA Eastern Conference in the late 80’s. Good teams but nobody is particularly unbeatable and each team has their share of flaws.
As a parent who has seen ALL of these teams probably way too many times up close since early December, I’m submitting my own Top 8 and assessment of what I’ve seen so far. Also, I am in no way trying usurp the expert or try to commandeer his invaluable analysis. I’m just a humble nerd who is merely adding to what he’s already said…
1) Catholic High – This is the most talented team of the CSAA, which is why I have them at #1. The talent is most likely due to picking off the 1-2 best players from each of the top 4 or 5 teams from last year’s 7th grade. Regardless, the starting 5 is solid and pretty spread across players from St Jude, one from Aloysius, SJV and STM. Their issues have primarily been team chemistry and coaching. (See 1993 Michigan Wolverines). Some of their more noteworthy games have included two losses to Mercy by a combined 5 points and a win over St George by 1 point. They have blown out the bad teams but have underperformed when it counted. Having said that, I would still expect them to get it together and show up in the championship game in early March.
2) St George – This is the team I’ve seen the least but they more or less have the same personnel from 6-7 grade. And they were absolutely the best team in the 7th grade last year. They shouldn’t be taken lightly and I expect them to be in the final four this year. They blew out SJV last weekend and it wasn’t even close. And that’s a solid SJV team (see #4). They are still beatable but are very well coached and don’t make mistakes.
3) Mercy - As has been reported here often, the shocker of the year has probably been the MidCity Blue Jays. Despite recent tournament losses to St Jude and MBS (a very underrated team), they are still 6-0 in league play. They have a solid starting 5 even though nobody stands out individually. Collectively, they are a 5-headed monster and are well-coached and can beat you many different ways. They have a legitimate backcourt and their lineup can handle the ball as well as anybody else in the league. Just ask the teams who have tried to press them late in the game. Most teams have also started to defend them with a zone, but beware. Eventually they will burn you with a wide open 3 if you play zone. They also have a rebound/defense machine in the middle who never seems to get in foul trouble or ever get tired. He has had several game saving plays throughout the year, including the championship game against Catholic High.
4) St Jean Vianney – This team is talented and well-coached but can meltdown quickly if you are able to hang with them long enough and get in their head. They don’t shoot particularly well but are fast, strong, athletic and big and will absolutely push you around, out-rebound you and force you into turnovers if you let them. They have a point guard who is their top shooter, never misses a free throw or wide open jump shot. They have two big kids down low who will make you pay if you try to drive. But the team has given up some leads and winnable games including their own tournament.
5) St Theresa – This is the other surprise of the year. Even though their top scorer and defender had a season-ending injury a few weeks ago, they’ve had a couple other players emerge as leaders and have played a lot of close games against the top teams in the league. They have a variety of different presses, including a half court zone trap to force you into the corners, a full court trap that yields constant turnovers, and a ¾ court press that’s very effective. They’ve been down by double digits multiple times this year to good teams and have come back to either win or lose a buzzer beater. They don’t care who you are, they are relentless and will not give up. No lead is safe against this team. If they were able to finish the season healthy, they’d be a solid bet to sneak into the final four. Huge credit to their coaching staff who find ways to make every game a dogfight to the very end.
6) MBS – They have a big center who is strong and can bully you in the paint but gets into foul trouble. But he’s also tough to guard and rebounds well. This is also a team that is collectively able to shoot as well as any team I’ve seen in the league on a given night. They have a talented back court who handle the ball well. If their center sticks around until the end of the game and if their point guard is shooting well, this team can cause problems for just about anybody. They have big tournament wins over Mercy and SJV recently.
7) St Aloysius – They have a talented point guard and 2 guard but it’s a steep drop off from there. Not as deep or as talented as some of the aforementioned teams at the top of the list, which is why they’re at the bottom of the Elite 8.
8) St Jude – Despite the huge upset against Mercy in their tournament a couple weeks ago, I still have this team only barely making the Elite 8. Their back court is certainly tough and they have a 2 guard (sometimes PG) who is small but very quick and probably outhustles anyone in the entire CSAA. He always seems to be around the ball and is always stirring up trouble in the form of a steal, jump ball or other hustle play. Their other guard is a great shooter and moves the ball around exceptionally well. This is a well-coached team and if they had their roster from last year, they would easily be a top 2 or 3 team.
Alphonsus just misses my list but they have scared a lot of teams and if it’s a close game with any of the top 8, they are more than capable of winning.
As a parent who has seen ALL of these teams probably way too many times up close since early December, I’m submitting my own Top 8 and assessment of what I’ve seen so far. Also, I am in no way trying usurp the expert or try to commandeer his invaluable analysis. I’m just a humble nerd who is merely adding to what he’s already said…
1) Catholic High – This is the most talented team of the CSAA, which is why I have them at #1. The talent is most likely due to picking off the 1-2 best players from each of the top 4 or 5 teams from last year’s 7th grade. Regardless, the starting 5 is solid and pretty spread across players from St Jude, one from Aloysius, SJV and STM. Their issues have primarily been team chemistry and coaching. (See 1993 Michigan Wolverines). Some of their more noteworthy games have included two losses to Mercy by a combined 5 points and a win over St George by 1 point. They have blown out the bad teams but have underperformed when it counted. Having said that, I would still expect them to get it together and show up in the championship game in early March.
2) St George – This is the team I’ve seen the least but they more or less have the same personnel from 6-7 grade. And they were absolutely the best team in the 7th grade last year. They shouldn’t be taken lightly and I expect them to be in the final four this year. They blew out SJV last weekend and it wasn’t even close. And that’s a solid SJV team (see #4). They are still beatable but are very well coached and don’t make mistakes.
3) Mercy - As has been reported here often, the shocker of the year has probably been the MidCity Blue Jays. Despite recent tournament losses to St Jude and MBS (a very underrated team), they are still 6-0 in league play. They have a solid starting 5 even though nobody stands out individually. Collectively, they are a 5-headed monster and are well-coached and can beat you many different ways. They have a legitimate backcourt and their lineup can handle the ball as well as anybody else in the league. Just ask the teams who have tried to press them late in the game. Most teams have also started to defend them with a zone, but beware. Eventually they will burn you with a wide open 3 if you play zone. They also have a rebound/defense machine in the middle who never seems to get in foul trouble or ever get tired. He has had several game saving plays throughout the year, including the championship game against Catholic High.
4) St Jean Vianney – This team is talented and well-coached but can meltdown quickly if you are able to hang with them long enough and get in their head. They don’t shoot particularly well but are fast, strong, athletic and big and will absolutely push you around, out-rebound you and force you into turnovers if you let them. They have a point guard who is their top shooter, never misses a free throw or wide open jump shot. They have two big kids down low who will make you pay if you try to drive. But the team has given up some leads and winnable games including their own tournament.
5) St Theresa – This is the other surprise of the year. Even though their top scorer and defender had a season-ending injury a few weeks ago, they’ve had a couple other players emerge as leaders and have played a lot of close games against the top teams in the league. They have a variety of different presses, including a half court zone trap to force you into the corners, a full court trap that yields constant turnovers, and a ¾ court press that’s very effective. They’ve been down by double digits multiple times this year to good teams and have come back to either win or lose a buzzer beater. They don’t care who you are, they are relentless and will not give up. No lead is safe against this team. If they were able to finish the season healthy, they’d be a solid bet to sneak into the final four. Huge credit to their coaching staff who find ways to make every game a dogfight to the very end.
6) MBS – They have a big center who is strong and can bully you in the paint but gets into foul trouble. But he’s also tough to guard and rebounds well. This is also a team that is collectively able to shoot as well as any team I’ve seen in the league on a given night. They have a talented back court who handle the ball well. If their center sticks around until the end of the game and if their point guard is shooting well, this team can cause problems for just about anybody. They have big tournament wins over Mercy and SJV recently.
7) St Aloysius – They have a talented point guard and 2 guard but it’s a steep drop off from there. Not as deep or as talented as some of the aforementioned teams at the top of the list, which is why they’re at the bottom of the Elite 8.
8) St Jude – Despite the huge upset against Mercy in their tournament a couple weeks ago, I still have this team only barely making the Elite 8. Their back court is certainly tough and they have a 2 guard (sometimes PG) who is small but very quick and probably outhustles anyone in the entire CSAA. He always seems to be around the ball and is always stirring up trouble in the form of a steal, jump ball or other hustle play. Their other guard is a great shooter and moves the ball around exceptionally well. This is a well-coached team and if they had their roster from last year, they would easily be a top 2 or 3 team.
Alphonsus just misses my list but they have scared a lot of teams and if it’s a close game with any of the top 8, they are more than capable of winning.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 2:59 pm to YankeeHotelFoxtrot
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As a parent who has seen ALL of these teams probably way too many times up close since early December, I’m submitting my own Top 8 and assessment of what I’ve seen so far.
Bro, that is not how this works. It has been 17 years, nobody cares about your rankings at all. BearTiger is the expert, put some respect on his name ! Absolutely no one wants some rando parents rankings.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 3:50 pm to yaherrdme
How is the elite 8 decided?
Is it just league record or is Condoleezza Rice leading a committee to decide the teams?
If league record can we get a playoff machine working? Need to see the scenerios for round one
Is it just league record or is Condoleezza Rice leading a committee to decide the teams?
If league record can we get a playoff machine working? Need to see the scenerios for round one
Posted on 2/7/23 at 4:27 pm to Enzos Tiny Pito
My understanding is that it is based on league record. From what I’ve heard, St George, Mercy are undefeated. Unsure about the others. Throwing up all respect to the Bear King.
Posted on 2/8/23 at 4:16 pm to Enzos Tiny Pito
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How is the elite 8 decided?
Is it just league record or is Condoleezza Rice leading a committee to decide the teams?
If league record can we get a playoff machine working? Need to see the scenerios for round one
There is a committee that makes the decision. Invites have been sent out. Seeding has not been set yet.
Posted on 2/8/23 at 4:46 pm to BearTiger
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There is a committee that makes the decision. Invites have been sent out. Seeding has not been set yet.
Interesting what is the criteria based on basically
Posted on 2/8/23 at 9:07 pm to Enzos Tiny Pito
Date is set for March 2-5. Seeding is based on league record and it is a single elimination tournament. First round is 8 v 1, 2 v 7, 6 v 3, 5 v 4.
Posted on 2/9/23 at 8:02 am to Enzos Tiny Pito
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Interesting what is the criteria based on basically
It is based on performance throughout the regular season and tournaments.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 8:47 am to BearTiger
The Elite 8 Bracket has been set. Here are the first round matchups and storylines:
1. St. George vs 8. St. Alphonsus - St. George is playing the best ball in CSAA right now. They have defeated St. Alphonsus pretty handily when they have played during the season. The Hornets do have one of the only centers in the league that can match the height of the Dragons.
4. CHS BR vs 5. St. Theresa - The Bears recently handled the Warriors with a double digit win. They are playing well right now and are starting to win the close games, which was a problem earlier in the season. The Warriors were unranked in the preseason but have a deep team that could help them make a run.
3. OLOM vs 6. MBS - This should be a great first round matchup. The Blue Jays were the #1 ranked team at one point in the season, but have struggled as of late with double digit losses to St. Jude and MBS. When the Pelicans are hitting their 3's, they are tough to beat with great inside outside balance.
2. SJV vs 7. St. Thomas More - Every team has had their up and downs this season including the Gators. Their size continues to be a matchup nightmare for most opponents. The Eagles can make a game ugly with their aggressive defense. They are hard nosed and a team that is not fun to play against.
1. St. George vs 8. St. Alphonsus - St. George is playing the best ball in CSAA right now. They have defeated St. Alphonsus pretty handily when they have played during the season. The Hornets do have one of the only centers in the league that can match the height of the Dragons.
4. CHS BR vs 5. St. Theresa - The Bears recently handled the Warriors with a double digit win. They are playing well right now and are starting to win the close games, which was a problem earlier in the season. The Warriors were unranked in the preseason but have a deep team that could help them make a run.
3. OLOM vs 6. MBS - This should be a great first round matchup. The Blue Jays were the #1 ranked team at one point in the season, but have struggled as of late with double digit losses to St. Jude and MBS. When the Pelicans are hitting their 3's, they are tough to beat with great inside outside balance.
2. SJV vs 7. St. Thomas More - Every team has had their up and downs this season including the Gators. Their size continues to be a matchup nightmare for most opponents. The Eagles can make a game ugly with their aggressive defense. They are hard nosed and a team that is not fun to play against.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 8:59 am to BearTiger
Ive heard rumor Jim Nantz will be in town to call the championship. Can we confirm?
Posted on 2/14/23 at 9:12 am to Pedro
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Ive heard rumor Jim Nantz will be in town to call the championship. Can we confirm?
Looks like he has a scheduling conflict. Negotiations are underway with @CHSRadioBear to handle the play by play.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:08 pm to Section102
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Negotiations are underway with @CHSRadioBear to handle the play by play.
Nooooooooooo
Posted on 2/14/23 at 4:46 pm to BearTiger
How is the bracket formatted? Is it a true double-elimination or the 2-sided consolation bracket?
I've never been a fan of the consolation-style bracket because it doesn't allow for any error. You lose the first game and you have no chance of fighting through the losers bracket.
I've never been a fan of the consolation-style bracket because it doesn't allow for any error. You lose the first game and you have no chance of fighting through the losers bracket.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:34 pm to The Next
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How is the bracket formatted? Is it a true double-elimination or the 2-sided consolation bracket? I've never been a fan of the consolation-style bracket because it doesn't allow for any error. You lose the first game and you have no chance of fighting through the losers bracket.
If you're not ready to win when it counts you need to get out of the big leagues of the CSAL
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