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Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:23 pm to meeple
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I’m in both and it’s in both
SAME
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:21 pm to KRS
So you get, at most, 6% SpaceX (which I highly doubt because their only non-public holding is 6% in a PE fund and I doubt that fund is 100% SpaceX), and 94% other stuff, run by a strategy that has gained only half the return of the Russell 1000 growth index since the ETF became available?
The SpaceX PR is just marketing.
The SpaceX PR is just marketing.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 8:03 am to slackster
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slackster
imagine being mad at people having some fun with this.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:34 am to Fat Bastard
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imagine being mad at people having some fun with this.
Why would I be mad?
Just calling a spade a spade with the marketing ploy.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:46 pm to slackster
Yeah, it shows up on Schwab for me today. Morningstar 1* rating, high risk with low returns, somehow losing 18% over the last 3 years (which is truly unfathomably bad performance in this market). A fractional % of the fund in SpaceX isn't going to make this dog hunt, imo.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 1:11 pm to mmmmmbeeer
the private equity and index tracking for this fund are relatively new so I’m not sure past results are a good measure but we will see. This ETF is really the only way retail can get any purchase on spaceX even if is minimal
which is brilliant marketing by the fund managers well. It can be both.
I wouldn’t buy this but I hope it goes up
which is brilliant marketing by the fund managers well. It can be both.
I wouldn’t buy this but I hope it goes up
Posted on 5/5/26 at 5:18 am to KRS
Any reason to load up on this in advance of the IPO, supposedly next month?
I was in it for a while but sold. Considering getting back in if they’re a pop from this.
I was in it for a while but sold. Considering getting back in if they’re a pop from this.
Posted on 5/5/26 at 7:11 am to Fat Bastard
Echostar is another good backdoor way to invest. I worked for them for 8 years in the early 00s and have held onto 700 shares that havent done shite.
Its gone crazy since June when it was $13 a share and is sitting in the 120s now. They have a ton of cash
Its gone crazy since June when it was $13 a share and is sitting in the 120s now. They have a ton of cash
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EchoStar (SATS) stock has surged over 400% in the past year, acting as a de facto proxy for SpaceX exposure, as the company holds a significant equity stake in SpaceX. Following a 2025 deal to sell spectrum to SpaceX, EchoStar gained a roughly 2.75% stake in the aerospace company, which could be worth billions upon a potential IPO.Key Connections & Financials:SpaceX Investment: EchoStar received SpaceX shares as part of an estimated $20 billion total in asset/spectrum swaps (including $17B and later $2.6B deals) with SpaceX in 2025, providing a way to invest in SpaceX before its anticipated public offering.
Posted on 5/5/26 at 7:24 am to KRS
Fidelity Contrafund also owns a large stake in Space X.
Posted on 5/5/26 at 9:01 am to JerseyJohn
just checked. i am basically at break even on this ETF currently.
no big gains and no big losses. was fun to play with for 18 months.
no big gains and no big losses. was fun to play with for 18 months.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 8:29 pm to dallastiger55
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Echostar is another good backdoor way to invest.
This is correct. Roughly 80% of the value of Echostar stock is due to Echostar’s holdings of SpaceX stock. So if you buy $10 of Echostar stock, it’s kind of like buying $8 of SpaceX stock. It’s probably the best way to get exposure to SpaceX stock before the IPO.
Posted on 5/8/26 at 6:31 pm to Gauge
I see there is a down vote to my post, but no explanation as to why the down vote. I definitely don’t know everything, so if there is something that is incorrect about my comment, I genuinely would like to know what it is. Give me your feedback please.
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