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re: Will we see the rise of Trains?

Posted on 6/16/23 at 9:39 am to
Posted by bod312
Member since Jul 2015
846 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 9:39 am to
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Well, the day will come when when run out of oil.


When do you think that will be happening? The government might make it extremely prohibitive but in reality we are a long long way from running out of oil. We do need to come up with a new technology but this isn't like a dire emergency.

EVs with current technology will have a place for in town commuting. There might be limitations for longer travel if we cannot develop new battery technology or faster recharge/battery swap technology. I think by the time oil is gone there will be plenty of options. Those options will not be ready in time for our government's arbitrary prescribed dates of getting rid of ICE vehicles.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25052 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 2:08 pm to
Population density or its lack dictate the economic practicality of passenger trains. America is too big for most passenger trains to be economically viable.

That said, I can take the Acela from NYC to DC in shorter time and more comfortable too from Penn Station to Union Station. It takes 3.5 hours town center to town center.

To fly from NYC to DC takes an hour or two longer due to travel time to and from airports and airport security delays. The flight is short, but the overall process takes longer.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25052 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 2:11 pm to
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The infrastructure is just too expensive.
Therefore, the cost to consumers would be too expensive.


I rode the Bullet train in Japan from Osaka to Tokyo. A lot of the Bullet train's tracks were actually on bridges. That's a big expense.

It was a great ride though.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14881 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:01 am to
The future isn’t traditional trains but I do think hyperloop has real potential. If I could do a trip in a pod with 4 people total that goes over 200 mph with no TSA, I would definitely do it. Particularly for anything within 800 miles of my location.
Posted by CORIMA
LAFAYETTE
Member since May 2014
530 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 11:29 am to
well, Biden vowed to build a railroad over the Indian Ocean, so that will need a new kind of train.
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 12:08 pm to
No.

If you want to be riding the next transportation wave, invest in electric.

There will be ups and downs but you're still early. I say that as someone who routinely mocks EVs.
This post was edited on 6/19/23 at 12:13 pm
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
72740 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 1:31 pm to
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Well, the day will come when when run out of oil.
when when I won't be here.

Or you.

Or anyone presently alive.
Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
17284 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 6:19 am to
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The infrastructure is just too expensive.
Therefore, the cost to consumers would be too expensive.


This also seems the case to push everything solar and wind-powered.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31522 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 7:49 am to
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The future isn’t traditional trains but I do think hyperloop has real potential. If I could do a trip in a pod with 4 people total that goes over 200 mph with no TSA, I would definitely do it. Particularly for anything within 800 miles of my location.


I used to love the idea of a hyperloop, but the logistic practicality of keeping hundreds/thousands of miles of tubing in a state of near vacuum strikes me as even more unreasonable than US high speed rail.
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4453 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:47 pm to
When are we running out of oil? Do
You know the reserves in this world?


Or are you just being silly???
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