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Will we see $200 oil in the next 3 years and how confident

Posted on 9/9/08 at 11:12 am
Posted by Zilla
Member since Jul 2005
10653 posts
Posted on 9/9/08 at 11:12 am
are you ?
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 9/9/08 at 11:17 am to
We will see sub $50 oil.
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
22285 posts
Posted on 9/9/08 at 11:26 am to
Are You Ready for $300 Oil

quote:

How high do you think the price of oil will go from here?

We will see $300 a barrel — or roughly $250 in today's dollars — because oil supply will be so short. If you want that oil, that's what you will have to pay for it. That will be in 2015, after the peak of oil [supply]. But even earlier, around 2010, more than 50% of the non-OPEC world will have peaked in its production of oil so the dependence on OPEC will become extreme. That will give OPEC a chance, I'm afraid, to lift prices rather more quickly on us than they are doing today.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 9/9/08 at 11:27 am to
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We will see sub $50 oil.


Agreed.
Posted by Zilla
Member since Jul 2005
10653 posts
Posted on 9/9/08 at 12:19 pm to
jersey, so at no point in 3 years do you expect to see $200 oil ?


also, the basics of this current oil decline is b/c of huge supply ? and opecs refusal to cut production ? right ?
This post was edited on 9/9/08 at 12:20 pm
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 9/9/08 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

jersey, so at no point in 3 years do you expect to see $200 oil ?


I won't pretend to know, but I don't think so.

quote:


also, the basics of this current oil decline is b/c of huge supply ? and opecs refusal to cut production ? right ?


Demand destruction, etc.
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
14128 posts
Posted on 9/9/08 at 3:12 pm to
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We will see sub $50 oil.


I never thought i'd see it get this close to $100 again. I assumed it was going to bottom out in the 110-120 range then head back up. Who knows now, but I think $80 will be extremely hard to break through. If Obama wins I think oil rallies this winter. Less domestic supply, a more belligerent Russia and China.....
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26745 posts
Posted on 9/9/08 at 11:27 pm to
quote:

Who knows now, but I think $80 will be extremely hard to break through. If Obama wins I think oil rallies this winter. Less domestic supply, a more belligerent Russia and China.....


I think our election will be irrelevant to the price of oil.
Posted by Martavius
Member since Nov 2005
16019 posts
Posted on 9/10/08 at 7:55 am to
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I think our election will be irrelevant to the price of oil.

To a degree, yes. It's probably already factored into the price today.
Posted by bovine1
Member since Dec 2004
1371 posts
Posted on 9/10/08 at 8:28 am to
We had significant demand destruction @$140ish so I'm gonna say no to $200 for now.
Posted by Zilla
Member since Jul 2005
10653 posts
Posted on 9/10/08 at 9:22 am to
can anybody link me some numbers showing this demand destruction ?
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 9/10/08 at 9:39 am to
Less U.S. Oil Demand LINK ][LINK], Less miles driven LINK ][LINK], Less miles driven again LINK ][LINK].

I think people focus on the high number and miss the point that the demand destruction has been occurring over a long time. $100 oil is a lot better than $140, but its still $100. As I write this OPEC just cut some supply.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 9/10/08 at 12:59 pm to
But the demand situation has been exaggerated for so long. India China India China. Yes yes, we know. But aggregate world demand has gone up something like only 10% since 2000. And the dollar has depreciated quite a bit.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 9/10/08 at 2:19 pm to
Indeed. This site is good for oil related junk, if anyone is interested.
Posted by LSUDrinka
Chicago
Member since Jul 2005
5549 posts
Posted on 9/10/08 at 3:33 pm to
The recent oil bubble had absolutely nothing to do with supply and demand.

It was trading hype.

You think supply and demand has justified the ridiculous fluctations we've seen in the last 3-6 months?

I say oil plateaus at 90-110 and we dont see another bubble for a long time.

Definitely not $200 in 3 years
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26745 posts
Posted on 9/10/08 at 3:40 pm to
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It was trading hype.


Right, the increase in price was from the anticipation of demand rising in India and China.
Posted by LSUDrinka
Chicago
Member since Jul 2005
5549 posts
Posted on 9/10/08 at 6:07 pm to
yes and now magically all that demand disappeared
Posted by countryboy
Plain Dealing
Member since Jul 2008
73 posts
Posted on 9/10/08 at 8:50 pm to
That is exactly right about the $50 oil because we will all be using Natural gas in our vehicles I would hope. Then our farmers can start selling corn to the Arabs for $100 bushel unless they learn how survive drinking the stuff!!
Posted by Zilla
Member since Jul 2005
10653 posts
Posted on 9/10/08 at 10:48 pm to
quote:

aggregate world demand has gone up something like only 10% since 2000


wow, didn't know that
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 9/10/08 at 11:41 pm to
If you really believe in either $50 or $300 (or anything else, for that matter) just head over to the oil market and bet on a contract that expires in three years.

Personally, I'd be glad to cover a bet that deviates significantly from the market price. Just shoot me an email and hand me your money - I'll just hedge the other way in the market. With any luck, we'll both win, but I won't need luck (snicker).
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