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Why would govt sending Doge payment be better than paying off debt?
Posted on 2/19/25 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 2/19/25 at 4:12 pm
I mean I’m all for the potential money just curious? Is it more of a play for brownie points?
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 4:18 pm to Tigernomics
Give me 5k and abolish income tax…Hella brownie points
Posted on 2/19/25 at 4:38 pm to Tigernomics
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I mean I’m all for the potential money just curious? Is it more of a play for brownie points?
Speaking in generalities, what they've discovered so far is presummably the tip of the iceberg. So, what has been thrown around would be as much of a "reward" for electing the people doing this than anything.
While it is still an insane amount of money, it is a drop in the bucket, so let the people get back some of what should have been theirs to begin with. Maybe helps a mentality shift so people really see the personal impact of wasteful government spending long term (a hope anyways.
Now, if the big $$ reductions that most think will be found, don't go towards reducing the federal deficit, I'll be livid.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 4:48 pm to Tigernomics
Do you really think Congress will approve sending stimulus checks to people when we are trying to reduce the deficit.
It is not up to the white house
It is not up to the white house
Posted on 2/19/25 at 5:23 pm to UltimaParadox
They’d have to find half a trillion dollars in CY cuts to get every US taxpayer roughly $3,000. Never going to happen. That same amount would also hardly dent the debt. They’re just dangling a carrot.
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 2/19/25 at 5:24 pm to UltimaParadox
quote:We are?
we are trying to reduce the deficit.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 5:30 pm to Tigernomics
There isn't some credit card payment out there we aren't making. The debt is out there in the form of treasuries, the duration and quantity is set.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 5:31 pm to Pendulum
This thread is hilarious.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 5:41 pm to beaverfever
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We are?
That is fair, it is fair to say that the entire administration congress included is actually not trying to reduce the debt.
It is trying to reduce spending.
No budget being put forward actually decreases the debt at all
Posted on 2/19/25 at 5:53 pm to Tigernomics
Well if the public knows that they will always get 20% of whatever DOGE finds in fraud, waste and abuse, a lot of Democrats and uninformed people will actively want DOGE to keep finding them more money and it will make it harder for Democrat politicians and the mainstream media to keep sky screaming because of Elon Musk and DOGE and to do so will be even more harmful to them for winning any elections.
So from one point of view, it would likely result in even more waste, fraud and abuse eliminated.
So from one point of view, it would likely result in even more waste, fraud and abuse eliminated.
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 2/19/25 at 6:07 pm to 98eagle
It’s this. Just politics.
They don’t give a shite about inflation or any of that jazz. Just take your $5k musk bucks and be happy.
They don’t give a shite about inflation or any of that jazz. Just take your $5k musk bucks and be happy.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 6:23 pm to Hateradedrink
DOGE plus Tariffs alone will likely turn the $2 Trillion national deficit into a budget surplus that starts eroding the national debt. Getting rid of most of the fraud and waste in every single government department and getting rid of most of the 400 government agencies would likely be half of the current $7 Trillion federal budget. A lot of taxes can be eliminated once a budget surplus starts increasing dramatically and the government bureaucracy is mostly eliminated. Hopefully we can get to that point
EDIT: My serial downvoter wants the country to continue suffering from government bureaucracy and fraud even though it also hurts their own future.
EDIT: My serial downvoter wants the country to continue suffering from government bureaucracy and fraud even though it also hurts their own future.
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 2/19/25 at 6:59 pm to Tigernomics
Hell that pays my deer lease dues and leaves me 1k left over for beer 
Posted on 2/19/25 at 7:30 pm to 98eagle
The budget isn’t being cut significantly without cuts to the military, SSI, Medicare, and Medicaid. Everything else is noise.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 7:41 pm to Hateradedrink
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The budget isn’t being cut significantly without cuts to the military, SSI, Medicare, and Medicaid. Everything else is noise.
These big ticket programs are slam full of fraud and waste. Legitimate expenditures are not being cut. The fraud and waste are being removed.
Have you seen the preliminary fraud already found in Social Security. There are something like 7 million people in the US receiving SS checks that are older than 120 years old. One person is 362 years old, about 110 years older than our country.
The military waste is something like 50% and we are maintaining outdated military equipment. Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid paid to illegal immigrants is staggering. All of that will be disclosed by DOGE this year.
DOGE just found 4.5 Million active unauthorized credit cards that racked up $40 Billion in charges last year. That is twice as many Federal Credit cards as we have Federal employees.
Washington DC is the fraud capital of the world.
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 2/19/25 at 7:53 pm to 98eagle
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ave you seen the preliminary fraud already found in Social Security. There are something like 7 million people in the US receiving SS checks that are older than 120 years old. One person is 362 years old, about 110 years older than our country.
Pretty amazing you guys eat this up, I guess we will wait and see when they actually produce some tangible results, I am guessing not so much.
I am sure there is fraud but the shite they are throwing out there now is just for politics
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:02 pm to UltimaParadox
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Pretty amazing you guys eat this up,
You guys are pretty naive if you think there is not massive fraud. These entitlement programs have basically never been audited.
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I guess we will wait and see when they actually produce some tangible results, I am guessing not so much.
DOGE has already validated $55B in savings with a goal of $1T in two years. What dollar amount of verified fraud and waste will it take for DOGE to cut before you think it is a worthy exercise?
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:15 pm to 98eagle
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DOGE has already validated $55B in savings
A post on a website does not make it validated, once we get the report where the payments went and everything is audited then I will believe it.
People thinking that this type of fraud can be validated within 2 days is laughable, this will take months if not years to get to the real truth.
But keep eating up the headlines
Once again I never said there was not fraud, but the numbers they are throwing out after a couple of days is nothing more than theater.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:23 pm to UltimaParadox
It's not just a website. It's the official DOGE government website. Or do you think it is fake or not proven?
Go to the Savings page on the official DOGE site below and scroll down to the Wall of Receipts. Then change to the savings view. Add up the receipts to get your $55B in cumulative savings. Then tell me exactly which savings that the DOGE team is lying about. If DOGE was lying about anything, I am sure the MSM would be all over it.
DOGEgov.com Live Tracker
Go to the Savings page on the official DOGE site below and scroll down to the Wall of Receipts. Then change to the savings view. Add up the receipts to get your $55B in cumulative savings. Then tell me exactly which savings that the DOGE team is lying about. If DOGE was lying about anything, I am sure the MSM would be all over it.
DOGEgov.com Live Tracker
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 8:31 pm
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