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re: Why state employees get high pay?
Posted on 11/6/20 at 7:27 pm to Flyingtiger77
Posted on 11/6/20 at 7:27 pm to Flyingtiger77
Not sure what you mean. They generally get paid considerably less than the same position in the private sector. The kicker is the pension that guarantees 75% or more of there salary for life after about 20-25 years of service and all the PTO and holidays. It’s also extremely difficult to get fired from a state position.
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Posted on 11/6/20 at 9:49 pm to Flyingtiger77
The Office of State Procurement Director gets paid $128,171.22 last year.
I was in government procurement for most of my career. I got out of it because the pay sucked unless you were on top.
I’m 35 and I make more than that in the private sector in Louisiana. Point is...pay isn’t that good.
I was in government procurement for most of my career. I got out of it because the pay sucked unless you were on top.
I’m 35 and I make more than that in the private sector in Louisiana. Point is...pay isn’t that good.
Posted on 11/6/20 at 9:55 pm to PillPusher
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It’s also extremely difficult to get fired from a state position.
Tell that to my buddy who thought the same thing. If you find yourself on the outside politically, they’ll weaponize the Civil Service Code against you. There are so many obscure rules that can get you let go.
One is that you have to keep so much PTO in your bank. If it’s less than 8 hours you’re subject to discipline.
There isn’t enough money in the world to get me back working for a bunch of government bureaucrats
Posted on 11/7/20 at 5:10 am to Diamondawg
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I probably could have made more salary out in the private world but I liked where I was.
There’s a lot to be said for that ... quality of life is highly undervalued.
Posted on 11/7/20 at 5:29 am to DiamondDog
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It’s also extremely difficult to get fired from a state position.
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Tell that to my buddy who thought the same thing
When compared to the private sector, yes ... it’s hard to get fired from public service.
Posted on 11/7/20 at 6:00 am to stewie
Employees also get a relatively large amount of vacation and sick time compared to the private sector. It also rolls over. So an employee can apply all of that time to their "service time" and retire being fully vested, but not work the full 40 years. Some won't take sick days or a vacation just to save that time for retirement.
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at the high earning rate I get 7.4 hours of annual and sick per 2 week pay period. That rate starts at the 15 year mark. So that’s 392 per year total fir both. You need 2080 total hours to get a year of retirement. Which is just over 5 years. It’s not that easy to save hours at such a high rate
One year gets you 2.5 percent of salary, or 25 cents on the dollar cash out (money rolled over). That’s not that great when you look at it.
I’m into the state 21 years. Could have made much more but I wanted to work 40 hours a week and have some freedom in life. Some state jobs (more specifically Departments) are easy but I stay overwhelmed where I’m at. As most of us do.
In 2005 the “good” retirement system went away. And it’s chabged a few times since. I surely would not start with the State right now
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at the high earning rate I get 7.4 hours of annual and sick per 2 week pay period. That rate starts at the 15 year mark. So that’s 392 per year total fir both. You need 2080 total hours to get a year of retirement. Which is just over 5 years. It’s not that easy to save hours at such a high rate
One year gets you 2.5 percent of salary, or 25 cents on the dollar cash out (money rolled over). That’s not that great when you look at it.
I’m into the state 21 years. Could have made much more but I wanted to work 40 hours a week and have some freedom in life. Some state jobs (more specifically Departments) are easy but I stay overwhelmed where I’m at. As most of us do.
In 2005 the “good” retirement system went away. And it’s chabged a few times since. I surely would not start with the State right now
This post was edited on 11/7/20 at 6:02 am
Posted on 11/7/20 at 6:34 am to Flyingtiger77
My wife is a parish manager and vastly underpaid
Posted on 11/7/20 at 7:44 am to stewie
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When compared to the private sector, yes ... it’s hard to get fired from public service.
Possibly but at larger companies the processes are a lot more involved. Maybe not legal recourse if at will but internally, there are processes. Improvement Plans, corrective action plans, and termination boards. It’s actually a better and more protected process than whatever Civil Service goofballs come up with, where you can be railroaded based on fabricated nonsense.
Posted on 11/7/20 at 8:04 am to BowDownToLSU
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My wife is a parish manager and vastly underpaid
So why doesn’t she take one of the other jobs, doing the same thing, that pays vastly more?
Posted on 11/7/20 at 2:40 pm to Dawgfanman
quote:the benefits are good . She only has a couple years until retirement. We both work and own a small business
So why doesn’t she take one of the other jobs, doing the same thing, that pays vastly more?
Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:28 am to BowDownToLSU
The biggest shocker to me is the number of LA State Police pulling in $150k plus.
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