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re: Why is crypto crashing?

Posted on 6/15/22 at 5:30 pm to
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 5:30 pm to
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BTC is also not the inflation hedge it should be.


Are there any inflation hedges? Gold isn't an option. It has actually been brutally bad. Even oil plays are looking like their run is done.

Joeflation spares nothing.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 9:23 pm to
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Are there any inflation hedges?
Avocado futures. Mirroring inflation quite perfectly this past year. Not sure why I know that
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 9:55 pm to
Because they are absolutely delicious!
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:56 am to
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You mean like printing half the money in circulation over 18 months? The USD is complete crap.


If the usd is complete crap then What other currency is more favorable?
Bitcoin?


I don’t like the the overprinting of the usd either but I live in the real world and I have to deal with what IS- not what I hope it will be.
As it stands today, the usd is about as stable a currency as I’ve seen.

And the fact that bitcoin etal is failing at the exact time that it is suppose to shine is telling. It shows the underappreciated risk of the new asset class. If it can’t do well as a hedge against inflation-
Which is largely why people want to own it- then you have to wonder how well it’ll do when things turn…
This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 9:12 am
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
28960 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 8:16 am to
Most algorithmic stablecoins, such as TerraUSD, don’t have assets in reserve. Instead, their $1 peg is governed by an algorithm (or as I say pure smoke & mirrors).
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/16/22 at 8:27 am to
This is too funny, had to share (see link below where Interstellar scene is mixed in with Saylor's rant). LINK
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 6/16/22 at 10:37 am to
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bitcoin etal is failing


Bitcoin is failing?

Why do you look at the Bitcoin chart from the top down instead of the bottom up? Up 2,000,000x in 12 years. Your myopic view is ridiculous.

Is gold a safer investment?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 6/16/22 at 3:37 pm to
The Stock floor is lava!


This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 3:40 pm
Posted by AUViclic
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/16/22 at 6:34 pm to
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Is gold a safer investment?


Absolutely
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:18 pm to
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Absolutely
Then why aren't people buying gold right now? Isn't this when gold is most important?
This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 7:19 pm
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
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Posted on 6/17/22 at 4:27 am to
This is it. Finally Bitcoin is going to zero.

Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 6/17/22 at 10:18 am to
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Why do you look at the Bitcoin chart from the top down instead of the bottom up?


Wow. I just had to copy this for historical preservation

Now you’re investing in things because of what they USED to be valued at….

Tell us, since you’re so certain that the market has it wrong with bitcoin, what is the correct value for bitcoin?

This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 10:30 am
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
15832 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 10:19 am to
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Is gold a safer investment?


Of course it’s safer but what difference does that make to you

You aren’t buying bitcoin for safety are you?
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
11456 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 12:35 pm to
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Of course it’s safer but what difference does that make to you


Then why did every country on the planet get off the gold standard? Why are countries going to Bitcoin as their currency?
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
11456 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 12:39 pm to
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what is the correct value for bitcoin?


Whatever the people are willing to pay for it.
Right now that's about $20-21k.

quote:

I just had to copy this for historical preservation



I'm not day trading.

Pin the picture on your bathroom wall. I want you to see how wrong you were.

What is different about this Bitcoin drop from the others?
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44023 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 1:36 pm to
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Gold isn't an option. It has actually been brutally bad


ytd Gold is up, unlike stocks and crypto
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
11456 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 2:02 pm to
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ytd Gold is up


Why are you cherry picking data?

Gold’s inflation adjusted 1980 peak price was $2189.

Gold is down over the past 42 years and no more countries are using it to back their currency. It doesn't get much worse than that.

Bitcoin on the other hand is up 2,000,000x the past 12 years and recently had it's first country adopt it as their nation currency with other countries studying it to do the same.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/17/22 at 2:31 pm to


I though we were discussing inflation and that when it really started going up, and every thing else is going down.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10671 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 2:35 pm to
More and more smoke surrounding Tether

As I read it, if Tether de-pegs, that'll be maybe the biggest (worst) thing to happen to the crypto markes so far?
Posted by Decisions
Member since Mar 2015
1590 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 2:38 pm to
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Gold … no more countries are using it to back their currency.


While not strictly false, I’d argue that Russia has essentially done just that (in conjunction with oil/natural gas).

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Bitcoin on the other hand is up 2,000,000x the past 12 years


I’m not sure this is a mark in your favor. Isn’t bitcoin supposed to be a currency? If so, the highest value a currency can have is (relative) stability. Who is going to adopt bitcoin for everyday use when a majority of the holders are treating it as a long-term investment? The two notions are incompatible.
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