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re: Why do consumers choose to bank with BAC?

Posted on 9/29/11 at 2:21 pm to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/29/11 at 2:21 pm to
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This makes no sense. I am a prime candidate for a mortgage in a couple of years and I will be creating multiple other accounts in the near future. I currently have no need for those vehicles yet, but I am the exact customer banks should be targeting to keep.

I'm sure you know your situation better than I do so I can't argue with you about it.

But what will you do when you're ready for that first mortgage loan?

You'll shop around for the best rate, if you're a typical home borrower. If the bank you fire today has the best rate, you'll go to them when you need them.

You might give your current bank the right of first refusal, but you'll shop around.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/29/11 at 2:27 pm to
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The bill only applies to those evil, greedy card companies with more than $10 billion in assets, and requires that the interchange fees be "reasonable and proportional to the actual cost" of processing the transaction (which the politicians, in their infinite wisdom, have decided is about 12 cents per purchase, as opposed to the current average of 44 cents.)


I don't see what the problem is here. Honestly 12 cents per transaction seems high to have computers talk to computers.
Posted by tirebiter
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Posted on 9/29/11 at 2:29 pm to
The website shows free checking and 15 free ATM withdrawals per month, plus you can scan checks at home and deposit them online or go to UPS stores. Would be surprised if USAA doesn't have a direct deposit form you could execute and give to your employer to automate the process.

LINK
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135058 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 2:35 pm to
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Honestly 12 cents per transaction seems high to have computers talk to computers.


Computers ain't free......
Posted by tirebiter
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Posted on 9/29/11 at 3:04 pm to
Neither is the cost Americans are paying to subsidize and bail out of bad banks, directly and indirectly. It's costing us a ton of earnings power that could be used to boost spending as well.
Posted by ATL TGR
Houston
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 9/29/11 at 3:27 pm to
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The website shows free checking and 15 free ATM withdrawals per month, plus you can scan checks at home and deposit them online or go to UPS stores. Would be surprised if USAA doesn't have a direct deposit form you could execute and give to your employer to automate the process.


Can also mail in deposits, no fees for checking/saving accs, direct deposit form easy to complete
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
40268 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 3:58 pm to
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Anyone know if USAA will charge for a checking account with them? Also, how do you deposit a check into a USAA account if there aren't any branch locations around.


I'm with USAA - they are not charging and have no plans to charge.

I also bank with a small, local community bank. I keep at most $10.00 with them. Why? Because if I have to deposit anything, I do it here and then transfer the money to my USAA account, which shows up instantly.

Posted by tims0912367
Member since Apr 2009
2598 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 4:03 pm to
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Amongst a litany of other reasons not to bank with BAC, why would someone want to pay $5/month to use a debit card at point of sale when you can get cash or points using a host of other bank branded credit cards??? Does not compute.


Don't worry; they're only hitting up the poor people for now:

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The $5 fee will apply to basic accounts and will be in addition to any existing monthly service fees. For example, one of the bank's basic accounts charges a $12 monthly fee unless customers meet certain conditions, such as maintaining a minimum average balance of $1,500.


Myself, the only change I've noticed over the last few years with new regulations and 0% interest rates has been less interest paid on my rewards checking account, which I expect to go down even more with this new regulation going into effect. It's been a long time since I've paid any fees whatsoever on checking or credit cards, and in fact I'm still earning money on both, though I know that may eventually change as the banks seek to maintain the profit margins they became addicted to. Of course, I don't know how much I've lost over the years due to the banking industry's effect on prices. I sure as hell don't expect the beneficiaries of this bill, the retailers, to lower their prices ever as a result of it, and if they do, I doubt it will be noticeable to me. I think it's pretty much a complete win for the retailers, period, and at worst neutral for the banks, who will find new ways to charge people for storing their money, and a complete loss for the consumer, the poorer of which will get dinged with new fees, and the richer of which will get richer at a slower rate due to eroding perks. Hooray. These "fairness bills" for lack of a better term always seem to have loopholes to ensure they cannot achieve their goals.
Posted by tirebiter
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Posted on 9/29/11 at 4:41 pm to
My point of the post, whether the customer has limited means or big dollars in a bank, is why someone would choose to pay with a debit card if it cost the consumer money. Use a credit card, use a check, use cash, whatever, and as a consumer why support TBTF institutions that have done nothing but destroy people financially over the past few years.

I am more pissed with ZIRP. These f'ers are easily costing me > $30k a year in interest earnings on near cash and I am f'n tired of it. There is a limit to how much in risky assets anyone wants to hold, including fixed income instruments trading above par, so there is really no alternative. The govt won't even let you buy > $10k annually in I-bonds anymore.

And Bernanke tries to say inflation is moderate. It is far from moderate when a consumer is lucky to find a 5-yr cd rate paying 2.25% with current CPI-U at 3.8% + taxes, and the banks need to institute debit card fees to continue to earn out of bad past mistakes of their own doing. Thank you, money czars, you are so f'n awesome.

I'm off my rant, I will simmah down now, but I have not thrown in the towel.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 4:52 pm to
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tirebiter



Quality post. Want to be Sec. of the Treasury? Please?
Posted by tirebiter
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Member since Oct 2006
10997 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 5:03 pm to
No, thanks for the kind comment. I haven't figured out how I had a financially successful care in the financial industry yet never became a blood sucker more interested in my bonus with a desire to pass any/all mistakes onto the backs of tax payers. This country has gone to shite in so many facets over the past 25 years due to can kicking combined with regulatory and political ineptness with the aid of greed, complacency and laziness from all corners. There is a huge difference in being industrious vs greed at all costs.

Simmah down time, I'm out.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135058 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 5:04 pm to
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why support TBTF institutions that have done nothing but destroy people financially over the past few years.
Really? REALLY????
Posted by reb13
Member since May 2010
10905 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 7:06 pm to
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I also bank with a small, local community bank. I keep at most $10.00 with them. Why? Because if I have to deposit anything, I do it here and then transfer the money to my USAA account, which shows up instantly.


If you have a smart phone Or a scanner you can do this without the extra account.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10997 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 7:17 pm to
Yeah, man, you know what I mean, it's not literal but close to the mark. Shouldn't offer "free" money to people with no means of repayment and not expect them to take it. Tell it to the suits that keep suing BAC, et al. They ought to drag Greenspan in and waterboard him while they are at it.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 7:44 pm to
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
40268 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 8:22 pm to
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If you have a smart phone Or a scanner you can do this without the extra account.


True, but that's assuming I deposit all checks.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135058 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 8:35 pm to
Oh....THAT.....
Posted by tims0912367
Member since Apr 2009
2598 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 11:35 pm to
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My point of the post, whether the customer has limited means or big dollars in a bank, is why someone would choose to pay with a debit card if it cost the consumer money. Use a credit card, use a check, use cash, whatever, and as a consumer why support TBTF institutions that have done nothing but destroy people financially over the past few years.


Oh, I agree. The only way I would pay any fee for a checking account or credit card is if there literally was no choice.

However, other people are stupid and lazy, and people who aren't good with money are used to getting dinged and may not think much of a new $5 monthly fee, if they even notice it. Lots of people don't look at their monthly statements, much less balance their accounts.

Some people will no doubt continue to use debit cards because of convenience and the inability to get into credit card debt with them, and others may not even have credit cards to fall back on. Habits die hard, and people love debit cards.

Though unaffected by it, I find the whole idea of the BAC fee highly insulting, especially since banks aren't even going to come close to losing money on debit card transactions. Thanks to the loopholes left by corrupt lawmakers and the stupid ones who went along, the banks get to push people back into credit cards for the higher fees, and they'll benefit even more because undisciplined people will inevitably carry a balance and get into trouble all over again.

As for BAC in particular, my only encounter with them in my life is when they took over Countrywide and converted my high yield online savings account to one of their low yield shite offerings, complete with a $10 monthly fee regardless of how much money you kept in it. I withdrew all my money and canceled my account the day I got the letter from BAC, and I never paid anything due to their "generous" one month grace period. Assclowns, thought I.
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17372 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 11:45 pm to
My bank gives me .10 for every debit card transaction I make. Usually comes out to $7-$8 a month. Even if they would start charging $5, I couldn't see myself leaving them. They've treated me well over the years.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38838 posts
Posted on 9/30/11 at 12:08 am to
Chase has treated me well since I was 15 but I will not pay them $60 a year for my account. I will find a smaller bank/credit union that will take my business. The only real inconvenience for me will be less branch locations. I am financially secure enough to use a credit card and pay it before the end of the month.
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