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re: Whole Life Investments. Pro's and Cons?
Posted on 9/4/09 at 8:11 pm to LSURussian
Posted on 9/4/09 at 8:11 pm to LSURussian
and by the way.....Life Insurance is NONTAXABLE!!!!
Posted on 9/4/09 at 8:12 pm to LSURussian
give me another one little Ramsey
Posted on 9/4/09 at 8:12 pm to bengalbrother
quote:
I am a Agent
We already knew that based on everything you said before it.
This post was edited on 9/4/09 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 9/4/09 at 8:16 pm to bengalbrother
Posted on 9/4/09 at 8:16 pm to bengalbrother
quote:Lose the attitude and I will.
give me another one little Ramsey
I bet you wonder why people don't like to invite insurance salesmen into their lives.....

Posted on 9/4/09 at 8:22 pm to bengalbrother
quote:A lot of good that's does me.....I'M frickING DEAD!!!!
and by the way.....Life Insurance is NONTAXABLE!!!!
Posted on 9/4/09 at 8:22 pm to LSURussian
I have no problem i just dont like people who try to bash something they know nothing about. I sale the crap out of term but I like to educate people on WL. Its not crap its just not for everyone
Posted on 9/4/09 at 8:23 pm to LSURussian
And that guy probably wouldn't have told you to put it in a trust, thus making it taxable on death through estate taxes. Brain dead.
Posted on 9/4/09 at 8:26 pm to bengalbrother
quote:So, you REALLY believe the only drawback to WL is its cost?
I have no problem i just dont like people who try to bash something they know nothing about.
quote:If it's not on sale, do you still sell it?
I sale the crap out of term
quote:Well that certainly sold me.... "Buy my product! It's not crap! It's just not for everyone."
Its not crap its just not for everyone
This post was edited on 9/4/09 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 9/4/09 at 8:29 pm to kfizzle85
I'm done talking to uneducated people. Buy what you want, the facts speak for themselves
Posted on 9/4/09 at 8:33 pm to bengalbrother
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I'm done talking to uneducated people. Buy what you want, the facts speak for themselves
We need to hook you up with Amsterdam.
Posted on 9/4/09 at 8:42 pm to LSURussian
Russian is a real life tard. The reason its not for everyone is because everyone can't get whole life due to budget restrictions. None of you have givin me ANY cons other than price of premium. I own term on me and my wife. I have whole life on my kids. I will, down the road, roll my term into wl. If you actually invest the rest after buying term, it will work. The problem is that most people do not invest. This isnt facts from my company, this is from the insurance comm
This post was edited on 9/4/09 at 8:43 pm
Posted on 9/4/09 at 9:28 pm to bengalbrother
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None of you have givin me ANY cons other than price of premium.
Um ... ... ...
Are you serious?
And the fact has been raised that if you die the value of the thing evaporates other than the death benefit.
But 3 out of 3 people who sell this steaming pile of crap think it is a good idea. That is pretty compelling.
Posted on 9/4/09 at 9:31 pm to bengalbrother
I have read that it takes at least 12, sometimes 15 years, before the CSV breaks even. How do you square that?
Posted on 9/4/09 at 9:49 pm to kfizzle85
quote:
Buy what you want, the facts speak for themselves
I could not have said it better, which is why I have term.
Posted on 9/4/09 at 10:52 pm to bengalbrother
quote:
bengalbrother
Holy shite.
Posted on 9/5/09 at 7:28 am to Tiger4Ever
It does take about 12-15 yrs. After that time your dividends, if your with a strong company,can pay the premium for you or it can buy paid up additions and grow your death benefit. Ya'll are talking out of your arse, the cash value is there for the insured during the time they are living and can be used as an interest free loan. I can go all day about the benefits. Wait until your term runs out and you have to price term at age 60. Go run a quote on that premium.
Posted on 9/5/09 at 8:42 am to bengalbrother
and by the way.....Life Insurance is NONTAXABLE!!!!
YES THEY ARE... DEPENDS ON YOUR INCOME..
In general a life insurance policy that is owned by the decendant is included in the gross estate for estate tax purposes. A filing is required for estates with combined gross assets and prior taxable gifts exceeding $3,500,000 effective for decedents dying on or after January 1, 2009. For tax years beginning 2010 the estate tax has been replealed
For more informaton you can get IRS Publication, 950, Introduction to Estate and Gift Tax and Form 706, United States Estate Tax Return from the IRS website,
YES THEY ARE... DEPENDS ON YOUR INCOME..
In general a life insurance policy that is owned by the decendant is included in the gross estate for estate tax purposes. A filing is required for estates with combined gross assets and prior taxable gifts exceeding $3,500,000 effective for decedents dying on or after January 1, 2009. For tax years beginning 2010 the estate tax has been replealed
For more informaton you can get IRS Publication, 950, Introduction to Estate and Gift Tax and Form 706, United States Estate Tax Return from the IRS website,
Posted on 9/5/09 at 10:12 am to bengalbrother
quote:Because I question your claim that cost is the only drawback to WL? If you sell (or, "sale" as you put it) insurance, then you surely know there are other issues with whole life policies. Why are you not being honest about it? Are you afraid you'll lose a sale (or "sell")?
Russian is a real life tard.
Now that you called me a tard, let's review just this one post of yours:
quote:Should be spelled it's since it is a contraction for "it is."
The reason its not
quote:Should be "None of you has...."
None of you have
quote:Should be "given." "Givin" is not a word.
givin
quote:Should be "on my wife and I."
I own term on me and my wife.
quote:Should be "These aren't facts...."
This isnt facts from my company
It really helps your case when calling someone else a 'tard' if you would at least not use standard Livingston Parish grammar to do it.
Now regarding other drawbacks, buying whole life on young children is absolutely mindless. They don't need their lives insured at that age. What they need is an investment plan to prepare them for college expenses. Rather than transferring your wealth to an insurance company on their behalf, the intelligent thing to do is invest what you would have put into premiums into a diversified no-load, low expense stock index mutual fund and reinvest the dividends. The cash value of that account upon their high school graduation would be approximately double the cash surrender value of a whole life policy at age 18.
If you are worried you won't have enough money for funeral expenses (God forbid) for them if they should not make it to 18, then a small ($10,000) term policy for them could be purchased for almost nothing.
The standard insurance peddler's argument of "they may not be insurable later" is just bunk. Such a small percentage of young people become uninsurable, it is a faulty argument.
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