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re: Which car to pick?
Posted on 5/6/25 at 12:14 pm to Chipand2Putts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 12:14 pm to Chipand2Putts
Volvo. Especially if the insurance is lower.
The Volvo is a much nicer ride. Safer too.
Any used car can have costly repairs.
Really, they are both good cars for a new driver. As others have said, let her decide. She will pick the Volvo. So, find a good mechanic.
When I had my out of warranty BMW I had a very good mechanic who worked on all the European cars even tho he advertised “German cars”. It’s not difficult to tell the good from the bad so (good-busy/ bad- not busy) so look them up then take notice when you drive by. Also, can develop relationship when you need little things like battery, tire patched, oil change etc. so you get a feel for the place.
The Volvo is a much nicer ride. Safer too.
Any used car can have costly repairs.
Really, they are both good cars for a new driver. As others have said, let her decide. She will pick the Volvo. So, find a good mechanic.
When I had my out of warranty BMW I had a very good mechanic who worked on all the European cars even tho he advertised “German cars”. It’s not difficult to tell the good from the bad so (good-busy/ bad- not busy) so look them up then take notice when you drive by. Also, can develop relationship when you need little things like battery, tire patched, oil change etc. so you get a feel for the place.
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Posted on 5/6/25 at 4:49 pm to Chipand2Putts
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Daughter will turn 16 shortly
Get the volvo, sleep well.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 9:11 pm to HVAU
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This post was edited on 5/6/25 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 5/6/25 at 9:13 pm to tirebiter
quote:quote:That is not necessary until 2016 began with back row cylinder deactivation.
If you go with the Pilot look into VCM muzzlers.
This is incorrect information. I have a 2015 Odyssey with a VCM muzzler (VCM Tuner). That 2015 Pilot 100 percent has VCM using the same 3.5L V6 as the same year Odyssey. The VCM Tuner is a cheap fix.
ETA: At 180,000, motor mounts may be shot if it isn’t muzzled already (it’s likely not).
This post was edited on 5/6/25 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 5/6/25 at 9:58 pm to Chipand2Putts
quote:Insurance rates are derived from actuarial data.
Surprisingly (to me), basic insurance (liability, uninsured motorist) is significantly cheaper on the Volvo, almost $500 per year less than pilot.
The Volvo will be non-functioning much more often than the Pilot (hence not on the road and creating exposure for your carrier).
Voila! The lower insurance rate for the Volvo.
2015 was (in general) a good production year for Honda models.
Much better than 2018 was for Volvos.
Honda Pilot, even older and more miles.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 7:36 am to Chipand2Putts
Would 100/100 times get the Pilot, especially if that engine is in tip top shape now.
Expect fairly major repairs for the Volvo if the turbo has never been replaced. That is a common thing that has to be replaced between 100k-150k on most vehicles with turbos and it's not cheap. Going to be a big downside to all these vehicles moving to smaller turbo engines for EPA/emissions over the last decade or so. Also XC90's have piston ring issues as a common issue if thats never been done before, another very expensive job.
Glad Honda has stuck with the J series V6, very reliable outside a few relatively minor quirks here and there on some models.
Using caredge as a guide, they expect people to pay more than double on maintenance/repairs on an XC90 vs. Honda Pilot of those years within the first 10 years, and you're already getting on beyond that. European vehicles in general are just way more expensive to maintain/repair, especially when you start getting into older ones with miles on them,
Expect fairly major repairs for the Volvo if the turbo has never been replaced. That is a common thing that has to be replaced between 100k-150k on most vehicles with turbos and it's not cheap. Going to be a big downside to all these vehicles moving to smaller turbo engines for EPA/emissions over the last decade or so. Also XC90's have piston ring issues as a common issue if thats never been done before, another very expensive job.
Glad Honda has stuck with the J series V6, very reliable outside a few relatively minor quirks here and there on some models.
Using caredge as a guide, they expect people to pay more than double on maintenance/repairs on an XC90 vs. Honda Pilot of those years within the first 10 years, and you're already getting on beyond that. European vehicles in general are just way more expensive to maintain/repair, especially when you start getting into older ones with miles on them,
This post was edited on 5/7/25 at 10:46 am
Posted on 5/7/25 at 9:06 am to Chipand2Putts
My initial thought was the Volvo to avoid a 16 year old having a 3rd row of seats to haul around groups of friends in the Pilot, but looks like the Volvo may have a 3rd row, as well, so just go with whatever most comfortable with as both seem like good options.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 10:24 am to Chipand2Putts
Volvo easy
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