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re: What percentage of people in BR have a "keeping up with the Jones" lifestyle?

Posted on 4/3/15 at 7:48 am to
Posted by LSUAfro
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 7:48 am to
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the smart people. Smart people also are not stretching out a 30yr mortgage

Dave would be so proud.
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 7:51 am to
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the smart people. Smart people also are not stretching out a 30yr mortgage


I think a loan officer for a mortgage broker once told me that people will owe over 90% of the loan after 15 years of payment in a 30 year mortgage. Must be a lot of interest up front.
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 7:53 am to
This shite/topic is getting old on this board.

Not everybody wants to defer enjoyment of their labor until they are retired and 60. Get off that shite. There's a lot of ways to enjoy life and still save and be fine for retirement. You don't have to live in a shack and drive 10 year old cars. You don't have to put 20% down and get a 15 year mortgage.

There are a lot of people who overstretch. No more in BR than in a lot of other places. At least the housing market and job market has been stable, so it's not the worst place to do it. But being responsible with your money while enjoying it, is not over stretching. Just realize not everyone has the same level of frugality, and that's perfectly acceptable.
Posted by theBeard
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 7:54 am to
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Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:16 am to
according to bankrate.com, amortization schedule

50/50 at 12.5 years at 4%
50/50 at 18 years at 6%

big difference in a couple of percentage.
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:26 am to
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so that was the beer scolding me?

Sure, but it's a shame you stopped at high school finance. Imagine what you could do if you really understood how money worked...
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:28 am to
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This shite/topic is getting old on this board.

I've gotta quit clicking on these damn threads

I should know better.
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:32 am to
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Sure, but it's a shame you stopped at high school finance. Imagine what you could do if you really understood how money worked...


Why don't you explain to me how money work? Maybe I can increase my high school level to an advanced level. I'm always eager to learn.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:54 am to
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I think a loan officer for a mortgage broker once told me that people will owe over 90% of the loan after 15 years of payment in a 30 year mortgage. Must be a lot of interest up front.


You either misremembered or were lied to. Using 170k as an example with 4.5% apr, year 15 balance would be 112k, or 66% of the original balance.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 8:55 am to
If your are in your 20's and buying a house in this interest rate environment, a 30 year amortization is a no brainer.

If you are 45 and signing up for a 30 year mortgage, you are probably doing it wrong.

Everyone here is painting with too wide of a brush.

A guy at the beginning of his career saving 10% of his income for retirement is on a great track if he has less than $10k in saved so far. A 40 year old in the same situation would be in a real bind.
Posted by HamCandy
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 9:07 am to
Yeah I don't get the need to have a 45k truck or 60k suv. I live in a neighborhood of spec houses that are around 225k and more than half the people have insanely nice vehicles. The math doesn't add up. I guess some people are ok being credit card millionaires.



Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 9:20 am to
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The math doesn't add up.

Did they buy a small house because they didn't need a big one, do they not have kids, did they inherit money or get big raises and not feel the need to move?

Math doesn't add up because you equate everybody's financial situation to yours.
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 9:31 am to
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Household income of $120k can easily support a $300k house, and two modest car notes.


I must be doing something wrong then. I'm single with an income in that ballpark and feel broke as shite.

Got 60k in my house
Less than 5k in my car
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 9:42 am to
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You either misremembered or were lied to. Using 170k as an example with 4.5% apr, year 15 balance would be 112k, or 66% of the original balance.


Must've misremembered. Maybe loan office was using a high rate to convey the point.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:34 am to
Well frick man
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 10:57 am to
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the smart people. Smart people also are not stretching out a 30yr mortgage


Mortgage interest deduction and inflation make borrowing at 3.7% largely negligible.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17259 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:01 am to
But paying PMI is just not good
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:04 am to
It's tax deductible too...and in established BR neighborhoods, that's coming off in 5-7 years, assuming 5-10% down.
Posted by HeadyMurphey
Los Santos
Member since Jan 2008
17185 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:41 am to
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It's tax deductible too


Not if you make too much
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75209 posts
Posted on 4/3/15 at 11:52 am to
quote:

This shite/topic is getting old on this board.

Not everybody wants to defer enjoyment of their labor until they are retired and 60. Get off that shite. There's a lot of ways to enjoy life and still save and be fine for retirement. You don't have to live in a shack and drive 10 year old cars. You don't have to put 20% down and get a 15 year mortgage.

There are a lot of people who overstretch. No more in BR than in a lot of other places. At least the housing market and job market has been stable, so it's not the worst place to do it. But being responsible with your money while enjoying it, is not over stretching. Just realize not everyone has the same level of frugality, and that's perfectly acceptable.


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