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re: What do you consider "middle class"?
Posted on 4/17/09 at 8:47 am to Martavius
Posted on 4/17/09 at 8:47 am to Martavius
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But its not even close to upper class
ok, iyo.
See the question said..what do "You" (and in my case that meant me) consider upper class.
I really don't know what to tell you, but the per capita income in Atlanta Metro is what 40K? I'm just guessing, but 175K probably puts you in the top 5-10% of income earners in the Metro Area.
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Posted on 4/17/09 at 8:47 am to Y.A. Tittle
probably so, but lower-upper. Much like the Walton kids. Although I'm not real clear on Buffet's inheritance plans.
Posted on 4/17/09 at 8:52 am to dawgorama
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I really don't know what to tell you, but the per capita income in Atlanta Metro is what 40K? I'm just guessing, but 175K probably puts you in the top 5-10% of income earners in the Metro Area.
This is where we probably differ. I would put upper class at the top 1% at most. That's over 50,000 people for a metro the size of Atlanta.
Posted on 4/17/09 at 8:53 am to Colonel Hapablap
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probably so, but lower-upper. Much like the Walton kids. Although I'm not real clear on Buffet's inheritance plans.
Of course, I'm not sure about Buffet's family background, but Gates didn't exactly come from nothing, either.
His dad was (and maybe still is?) like a managing partner at one of the biggest law firms in Seattle. Even though Bill got himself into a different stratosphere altogether.
He could have probably lived quite comfortably off his dad's money, and maybe been seen as "upper class" under your criteria (especially if he'd stayed at Harvard, graduated, and just gone home). But, since he branched out on his own, and did something to become one of the richest men in the world, he's now forever relegated to middle class?
Posted on 4/17/09 at 8:55 am to Martavius
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This is where we probably differ. I would put upper class at the top 1% at most. That's over 50,000 people for a metro the size of Atlanta
Those are the "rich" folks, imo.
Posted on 4/17/09 at 9:05 am to dawgorama
I'm pushing that number to 50,001 after I win the Mega Millions tonight.
Posted on 4/17/09 at 9:36 am to Colonel Hapablap
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I appreciate your trying to put words in my mouth for a change.
You're welcome. It felt really good. Now I understand why you like to do it so much....
So, to clarify, an office secretary is a blue collar worker, right?
Posted on 4/17/09 at 9:39 am to dawgorama
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Depends on the area. In Atlanta?
The following are Family income, not individual:
0-50 Lower Class
50-75 Lower Middle Class
75-125 Middle Class
125-175 Upper Middle Class
175 and up Upper Class
I agree it strongly depends on where you live. We're in rural Georgia 100 miles from Atlanta and I'd say:
0-25 Lower Class
25-40 Lower Middle Class
40-75 Middle Class
75-100 Upper Middle Class
100 and up Upper Class
It helps that housing is cheap. $200,000 will buy a very nice house and probably 90% of homes are cheaper than this (many also have the added advantage of mobility).
Posted on 4/17/09 at 9:43 am to LSURussian
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So, to clarify, an office secretary is a blue collar worker, right?
office secretary implies lower class.
blue collar implies lower class.
drunken bum implies lower class.
I'm sure you're aware that the existence of 3 subsets of a larger set does not imply congruence of the 3 subsets.
Posted on 4/17/09 at 10:07 am to Colonel Hapablap
does fast food worker imply lower class?
Posted on 4/17/09 at 10:09 am to MileHigh
you would be lower class no matter what your background or education was.
Posted on 4/17/09 at 10:16 am to Colonel Hapablap
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you would be lower class no matter what your background or education was.
i am telling mom that you said we are lower class. she is going to be pissed as she walks around the trailer park this am.
Posted on 4/17/09 at 10:27 am to MileHigh
I have an AAS and work in an office as a Help Desk Tech.
The ole lady is a Credit Manager with no degree.
We live in Arkansas and our house payment is only $510 a month
We make between 85K~90K annually.
What are we? I feel poor.
The ole lady is a Credit Manager with no degree.
We live in Arkansas and our house payment is only $510 a month
We make between 85K~90K annually.
What are we? I feel poor.
Posted on 4/17/09 at 10:30 am to Colonel Hapablap
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I'm sure you're aware that the existence of 3 subsets of a larger set does not imply congruence of the 3 subsets.
Of course.... Even an Alabama grad would know that....
Posted on 4/17/09 at 10:33 am to Luke4LSU
If you can afford to take your kids and mother-in-law to Disneyworld you are Upper class.
All others are poor.
All others are poor.
Posted on 4/17/09 at 10:38 am to Lsupimp
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If you can afford to take your kids and mother-in-law to Disneyworld you are Upper class.
Posted on 4/17/09 at 10:43 am to Lsupimp
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If you can afford to take your kids and mother-in-law to Disneyworld you are Upper class.
Got back from there last week and did take Grandma. Bow to me peasants for I am your master.
Posted on 4/17/09 at 10:45 am to igoringa
Posted on 4/17/09 at 11:26 am to Y.A. Tittle
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His dad was (and maybe still is?) like a managing partner at one of the biggest law firms in Seattle. Even though Bill got himself into a different stratosphere altogether.
I think it was his grandpa (so even more old money), and the firm still bears his name.
IMO the Col.'s theory is wildly outmoded; it's like something out of a Jane Austen novel where the landed gentry are "respectable" no matter how poor they actually are, but the bourgeosie - no matter how wealthy - aren't allowed in those social circles. I just don't think that reflects reality in the 21st century USA.
I agree that there's no 1:1 correlation between wealth/income and class, but to claim the two are "independent" is taking it too far
Posted on 4/17/09 at 12:37 pm to Cold Cous Cous
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I agree that there's no 1:1 correlation between wealth/income and class, but to claim the two are "independent" is taking it too far
It certainly is independent for my next door neighbor. He is a financial planner for A.G. Edwards and apparently makes good money. I doubt there is a bigger redneck in the world. He has his momma and brother living in doublewides behind his nice house, they raise goats, the kids ride their ATV's on their propery 24/7, he has a pack of dogs, he loves doing projects and they look like crap (he has a 6 foot "V" in his front yard since that is the first letter of his last name. It is made of untreated 2x4 and is warping badly now). He is not a bad guy but no amount of money is going to keep him from being a low class redneck.
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