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re: Unemployment numbers at a 50 year low but average person does not favor economy

Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:42 am to
Posted by UpstairsComputer
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2017
1799 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:42 am to
And another... should call this thread "bear porn".
Posted by glorymanutdtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
4565 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:52 am to
Employment data doesn't mean much. 80% could be making minimum wage and not meeting ends.

Taking out the top 5%, what is the average income?

Gap between top 5% and the rest is massive.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11869 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 11:34 am to
Labor is always second to last and of course everybody’s favorite finishing act, asset prices when people need cash and don’t have income.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
12868 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 11:35 am to
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Show your work.



Uh, Google the Birth/Death adjustment.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91362 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 11:56 am to
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While the yield curve isn't a driver nor is it a true predictor of recession, it's a representation of how investors see the upcoming economy. With that said, it's been accurate enough to be mistaken for a predictor. Currently we are in a period of inversion that we haven't seen since the economic woes of the late 70s/early 80s (based on range of inversion combined with time length).


Oh I’m well aware, but it’s also good to remember there is about a 1/6 chance of a recession in any given year. They’re a common thing, and the bond market very clearly thinks one is coming sooner rather than later, but alot of people thought we’d already be in one and here we are.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91362 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 11:59 am to
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Uh, Google the Birth/Death adjustment.


So they’ve been garbage.

It’s not like they’re all of a sudden garbage, which is what many imply.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19207 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 12:36 pm to
They’re manipulating the data. Shadow stats has a lot of info on changes made in how unemployment, CPI, etc. have been changed over time.

For some reason I can’t get the link to work but just Google Shadow Stats Unemployment.
This post was edited on 5/5/23 at 1:53 pm
Posted by CSinLC
Member since May 2018
2089 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 12:56 pm to
Layoffs, Bank failings, Down Markets - and this administration thinks people believe these skewed numbers!?
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
46416 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 1:10 pm to
Thanks for that informative post.

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Currently we are in a period of inversion that we haven't seen since the economic woes of the late 70s/early 80s (based on range of inversion combined with time length).
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