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re: ULTY & MSTY Dividend announced

Posted on 7/3/25 at 11:38 am to
Posted by oneg8rh8r
Port Ludlow, WA
Member since Dec 2003
2940 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 11:38 am to
FYI.

I only do this in my Roth Accounts so the tax issue is a non event.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11865 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 2:48 pm to
No, that's fair. I like the income. Regardless of the other steps, the 35% of divs always gets put to the side.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67253 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 4:55 pm to
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the 35% of divs


Is that what it's taxed at?

Or just taxed as normal income and you're in the 35% bracket?
This post was edited on 7/3/25 at 5:05 pm
Posted by horsesandbulls
Destin, FL
Member since Jun 2008
5148 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:43 pm to
If in a taxable brokerage account, Ordinary dividends get taxed at ordinary rates. Qualified get taxed at capital gains rates.




Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11865 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:57 pm to
What the guy above me said. I’m probably being overly cautious but I have some other K-1 and 1099 work, so I’m playing it safe this year. I’m only about five months into these Yieldmax funds, so it’s new territory for me.
This post was edited on 7/3/25 at 7:09 pm
Posted by LoneStar23
USA
Member since Aug 2019
5784 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

in a taxable brokerage account, Ordinary dividends get taxed at ordinary rates. Qualified get taxed at capital gains rates.


Aren't these dividends qualified and tax efficient for yeildmax?
Posted by horsesandbulls
Destin, FL
Member since Jun 2008
5148 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 9:17 pm to
I haven’t been able to tell. Likely a combo of qualified, ordinary, and return of capital.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
89354 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 9:25 pm to
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The distribution may include a combination of ordinary dividends, capital gain, and return of investor capital, which may decrease a fund’s NAV and trading price over time. As a result, an investor may suffer significant losses to their investment.



LINK
Posted by horsesandbulls
Destin, FL
Member since Jun 2008
5148 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 9:30 pm to
According to that the one from 6/25 was all a return of capital
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
89354 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 9:39 pm to
correct. looks like no qualified dividends because this fund does not pay "real" dividends.

quote:

However, most of its distributions are considered return of capital, not true income. This means they can erode your cost basis and have tax consequences.


LINK

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ULTY’s synthetic covered call strategy offers high weekly yields but relies on volatile stocks and complex derivatives, making it riskier than it appears. Most of ULTY’s distributions are return of capital, not true income, which can erode your cost basis and lead to future tax consequences in taxable accounts.


exactly why i have stops and basically trade this stuff. ready to bail any day.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
4498 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 9:43 pm to
Do they list their costs? I know they have a standard mgt fee. But it’s got to be expensive sell puts and calls to create their synthetic longs. They seem to focus on the potential nav decays connection to to the falling underline equity.

But they could easily take loses on from bad calls, and puts that would drain the NAV.

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