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The incoming crash and inflation - debt

Posted on 5/12/21 at 5:39 am
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 5:39 am
Is it better to have debt or pay things down for the expected crash?
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 5:41 am to
Debt
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 5:50 am to
Debt is an excellent hedge against inflation
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 6:15 am to
How much debt? Doesn’t seem smart to max out CCs.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4585 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 6:47 am to
Government and corporations are theoretically immortal entities. They’ll never intend to “pay back” debt. They’ll just issue new debt to refinance that and grow their earnings enough to pay the interest.

What will be concerning from our governments stand point is when the interest on debt becomes more than what we make (GDP).
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
7492 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 6:51 am to
quote:

Doesn’t seem smart to max out CCs


I'm not talking about high interest credit card debt
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 6:59 am to
So like low interest personal loans etc?
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 7:03 am to
Anything with a variable rate will have its interest rate adjusted up. A fixed rate loan or mortgage is ideal.

Think through the scenario.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 7:06 am to
When is the right time for something like this? Do you wait until interest rates start to rise or just apply for a LOC and hold on until it hits?

Posted by Ruxins Rascals
Middle of Da Bayou
Member since Nov 2018
537 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 7:13 am to
This, I was in the market for a new home and due to the security a 30yr fixed loan @ 2.8% provides, we decided to purchase a home towards the top of our budget.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13626 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 7:26 am to
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How much debt? Doesn’t seem smart to max out CCs.


When they say debt they do not mean loan sharks or gambling debt either. You picked the absolute worst debt when asking the question. Good debt is a hedge against inflation, which is debt for assets like houses, real estate, etc.
Posted by ynlvr
Rocket City
Member since Feb 2009
4591 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 7:28 am to
Right. “Appreciable” assets.
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 7:33 am to
quote:

When is the right time for something like this?


Before the inflation actually hits.

Now if you asking me for a specific time, then if I actually knew that, I wouldn’t be posting as Batman on an LSU message board.
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 7:38 am to
Debt. Coupled with low interest rates I would move to the most expensive,nearest, safest suburb/small town ASAP.
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
7901 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 7:56 am to
quote:

Debt is an excellent hedge against inflation


This is true assuming your wages also keep up with inflation. There was a period during the financial crisis where this wasn't the case so the inflation hedge via your mortgage would've been marginal.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24956 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 8:00 am to
quote:

This is true assuming your wages also keep up with inflation


I have a feeling my paycheck would lag the inflation by quite a while. Not like we can automatically charge clients double because goods and services are through the roof.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19508 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 8:04 am to
quote:

What will be concerning from our governments stand point is when the interest on debt becomes more than what we make (GDP)


I saw years in NYC after the Linsey spending binge on social programs where such a huge portion of tax revenue went to debt service that they simply stopped maintaining, roads, bridges, government buildings and subways. Of course, they didn't lay off anyone in the bloated government agencies.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19508 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 8:06 am to
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Now if you asking me for a specific time


Last year was the ideal time.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84883 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 8:08 am to
quote:

This is true assuming your wages also keep up with inflation. There was a period during the financial crisis where this wasn't the case so the inflation hedge via your mortgage would've been marginal.


Debt is good to have regardless of your paycheck. I wouldn’t go buy something you don’t need, but theoretically you would rather have the fixed rate debt, a house that is appreciating due to inflation, and the cash invested in something else too.

You want to leverage cash into as many appreciating assets as possible. Debt allows you to do that.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80778 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 8:21 am to
If you think inflation is going to run wild, it is beneficial to have a lot of low interest debt.
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