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TDK claims solid-state battery breakthrough
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:22 am
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:22 am
worth watching this ticker ....
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Japan’s TDK is claiming a breakthrough in materials used in its small solid-state batteries, with the Apple (AAPL) supplier predicting significant performance increases for devices from wireless headphones to smartwatches.
The new material provides an energy density — the amount that can be squeezed into a given space — of 1,000 watt-hours per litre, which is about 100 times greater than TDK’s current battery in mass production.
Since TDK introduced it in 2020, competitors have moved forward, developing small solid-state batteries that offer 50 Wh/l, while rechargeable coin batteries using traditional liquid electrolytes offer about 400 Wh/l, according to the group. “We believe that our newly developed material for solid-state batteries can make a significant contribution to the energy transformation of society. We will continue the development towards early commercialisation,” said TDK’s chief executive Noboru Saito.
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The batteries set to be produced will be made of an all-ceramic material, with oxide-based solid electrolyte and lithium alloy anodes. The high capability of the battery to store electrical charge, TDK said, would allow for smaller device sizes and longer operating times, while the oxide offered a high degree of stability and thus safety.
The battery technology is designed to be used in smaller-sized cells, replacing existing coin-shaped batteries found in watches and other small electronics. The breakthrough is the latest step forward for a technology industry experts think can revolutionise energy storage, but which faces significant obstacles on the path to mass production, particularly at larger battery sizes.
Solid-state batteries are safer, lighter and potentially cheaper and offer longer performance and faster charging than current batteries relying on liquid electrolytes. Breakthroughs in consumer electronics have filtered through to electric vehicles, although the dominant battery chemistries for the two categories now differ substantially.
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:59 am to cadillacattack
You always see these announcements but nothing materializes…
Posted on 6/17/24 at 12:26 pm to C
I agree, however this is major player, I feel it's typically a niche relatively unknown company making these claims. I wish it gave some general timeframe, are we talking 2-3 years out here or like a decade?
Posted on 6/18/24 at 9:12 pm to cadillacattack
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“We believe that our newly developed material for solid-state batteries can make a significant contribution to the energy transformation of society. We will continue the development towards early commercialisation,”
Could be a winner if the material is cost effective to produce. Otherwise it could be a long time before it’s ever cost effective…if ever
The 1 year chart does look like someone on the inside knows something though.
This post was edited on 6/18/24 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 6/18/24 at 9:53 pm to cadillacattack
TDK used to make very good cassette tapes.
That's all I got.
That's all I got.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 10:27 pm to SG_Geaux
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TDK used to make very good cassette tapes. That's all I got.
My first TDK tape was Newcleus: Jam On It.
Had a memorex too. That was Nitty Gritty Circle.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 11:52 pm to cadillacattack
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The batteries set to be produced will be made of an all-ceramic material, with oxide-based solid electrolyte and lithium alloy anodes.
So they're about 10 years behind QuantumScape?
Posted on 6/19/24 at 7:30 am to The Baker
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So they're about 10 years behind QuantumScape?
QS has never sold a product. Posted on 6/19/24 at 7:48 am to cadillacattack
It'll end up just like this story:
LINK
The US Gov and various US interests will pump a whole bunch of money into it, then it will go bankrupt and the Chinese will buy it.
Rinse. Repeat.
LINK
The US Gov and various US interests will pump a whole bunch of money into it, then it will go bankrupt and the Chinese will buy it.
Rinse. Repeat.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 9:48 am to C
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You always see these announcements but nothing materializes…
It's a long road from the lab to the market with many pitfalls along the way.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 4:02 pm to CharlesUFarley
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It'll end up just like this story:
TDK has been around since the 1930s and currently generates around $13B in revenue each year.
This isn’t some fly by night company with a press release full of hopium.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 6:06 pm to dstone12
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My first TDK tape was Newcleus: Jam On It.
Thanks. Now this will be in my head for the next 3 days minimum
Even the slowed down version
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:36 am to slackster
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QS has never sold a product.
TDK's "breakthrough" ceramic separator for SSB's was invented by Singh's lab at stanford in like 2011.
From the article:
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The ceramic material used by TDK means that larger-sized batteries would be more fragile, meaning the technical challenge of making batteries for cars or even smartphones will not be surmounted in the foreseeable future, according to the company.
Meanwhile QS has a flexible ceramic separator and batteries rolling off their pilot assembly line "Raptor".
QSE-5 will be here shortly and I've bookmarked your smug response
Posted on 6/20/24 at 8:37 am to C
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You always see these announcements but nothing materializes…
Because many players right now are working on ways to scale production. It is easy to make things in a lab vs mass production.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 10:34 am to The Baker
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Meanwhile QS has a flexible ceramic separator and batteries rolling off their pilot assembly line "Raptor".
$0 in revenue. In the entire history of the company.
They may have a product one day, but right now they don’t. TDK will be selling these batteries very soon.
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 10:37 am
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:31 am to slackster
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TDK will be selling these batteries very soon.
But they wont though... by their own admission.
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making batteries for cars or even smartphones will not be surmounted in the foreseeable future, according to the company.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 12:29 pm to The Baker
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But they wont though... by their own admission.
They’ll be making them for wearables.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 8:46 am to PistolPete45
Read something like this 3-4 years ago where Toyota was delaying the 100% move to current EV tech as it was finding several companies on their solid state tech. Not sure if this on of the companies though.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 9:25 am to slackster
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TDK claims solid-state battery breakthrough
quote:ala the Apple partnership. So leads to...will their stock, currently @ ~$59, see a good solid uptick from this anytime soon or will Apple stock suck the benefit when they make their "we've improved our phone battery tech" announcement?
They’ll be making them for wearables.
This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 9:28 am
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