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re: Stone energy. Anyone with info

Posted on 5/12/16 at 4:09 pm to
Posted by LSUBanker
Gonzales, La
Member since Sep 2003
2652 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 4:09 pm to
They'll have to eventually deal with the possiblity of being delisted from NYSE.
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 5/12/16 at 9:34 pm to
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It doesn't take inside info to read the 10-K of a public company. And if you do read SGY's, you should pay attention to their debt levels, the maturity dates of said debt, and that they say in their own report that they'll likely end up defaulting and/or going bankrupt in a matter of months

Yeah I don't mean to sound like a dick or come off in a demeaning manner, but shite, it's written in black and white in their filings.

Stone was hoping for a hail marry and oil prices to spike enough to get them to agreeable terms with their creditors and avoid a reorganization. At this point, that seems highly unlikely.

I don't need insider info to see that from a public company.
Posted by Omada
Member since Jun 2015
714 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 7:40 am to
I don't want to sound like a dick either. It's just that the first page of this thread has a link from b-rab 2 of their financial ratios and a link from me for the 10-k, which includes the page number of the balance sheet and a quote pointing to defaulting soon. That kind of information is about as unbiased as you can get (and public), and both of those point to SGY's dire situation.

Side note: I use WSJ's website for a quick look at a company's financial ratios. Link for SGY's page on WSJ. The efficiency section in particular seem to show that the company is bleeding out.
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 10:39 am to
AND THERE SHE BLOWS!!!!
Posted by PetreauxCat
TX
Member since May 2009
860 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 11:05 am to
What happened? Chapter 11?
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29221 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 11:20 am to
?
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38261 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 11:43 am to
Looks like they're about to be delisted from the NYSE.

LINK

quote:

Item 3.01. Notice of Delisting or Failure to Satisfy a Continued Listing Rule or Standard; Transfer of Listing.

During the week of May 16, 2016, the Company expects to receive formal notice from the New York Stock Exchange (the “NYSE”) that it is not in compliance with the NYSE continued listing standards. Section 8.02.01B of the NYSE continued listing standards states that a company will be considered to be below compliance if its average global market capitalization over a consecutive 30 trading-day period is less than $50 million, and at the same time stockholders’ equity is less than $50 million. The Company is considered below these criteria because its average global market capitalization has been less than $50 million over a consecutive 30 trading-day period and because its stockholders’ equity was below $50 million.


If you're still hanging...I recommend getting what little you have left out.
Posted by LSUChamp06
Kansas City
Member since Nov 2007
2860 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:58 pm to
Southcross Energy filed bankruptcy back in late March and since then their stock has tripled. It doubled the day they filed.
Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
27239 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:06 pm to
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Southcross Energy filed bankruptcy back in late March and since then their stock has tripled. It doubled the day they filed.


It depends on the type of bankruptcy. I think certain chapters (7) will cancel shares (aka the shares will be worth 0). With Reorgs (11, 13) I think it just depends on the circumstances.
Posted by LSUChamp06
Kansas City
Member since Nov 2007
2860 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:09 pm to
Correct. If Stone were to file, it would be the reorganization type of bankruptcy.
This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 2:12 pm
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20514 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 4:55 pm to
Are they going to pull a rabbit out of the hat with this one. Am kicking myself, had I stayed in I would have doubled my money. Came up with the 29M to pay the interest on their senior notes and payed two payments towards their draw downs.
Posted by Omada
Member since Jun 2015
714 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 5:38 pm to
Look again, man. They did a 1 for 10 reverse split a few days ago, probably so they can stay on the NYSE. Look back at March on the chart and you'll have a rough idea of your reverse split-adjusted cost basis. You would have been roasted unless you were short or bought in May.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38261 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 7:24 pm to
Ended the say +23% after a couple stead days of growth. Will they make it back from the dead?
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38261 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 9:40 am to
Starting the day with a 13% jump, let's see where this bad boy goes
Posted by iknowmorethanyou
Paydirt
Member since Jul 2007
6613 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:26 pm to
Thought you got out? In at $0.37 here.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38261 posts
Posted on 6/21/16 at 8:35 pm to
I got out in that last spike before the split at like 1.06. My original buy in average was around 2.00.

Now after the split, I bought in again around 6.47 to try to recoup and actually got a nice chunk back over the last couple days. I'm actually mad at myself because I couldn't get into my brokerage account fast enough trying to buy in on morning and could've been in around 5.50.
This post was edited on 6/21/16 at 8:41 pm
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38261 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:38 am to
Already up 16% this morning, jesus. Something has to be going on
Posted by LSUChamp06
Kansas City
Member since Nov 2007
2860 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:56 am to
quote:

Already up 16% this morning, jesus. Something has to be going on


Yes. You're making money!
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35633 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:09 am to
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Stone energy


That move was nothing more than a dead cat bounce. They are leaking money right now and the assets they have are at a discount. Meaning some of the leases are valued 85( top dollar for acreage with a possible 3/16 royalty on them) a barrel near top dollar but the only offers are at the 45-49 range right now. Can probably pick up their building for a nice discount in about 2 years...that is how bad they really are.
Posted by Omada
Member since Jun 2015
714 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 10:09 am to
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I got out in that last spike before the split at like 1.06. My original buy in average was around 2.00.

Now after the split, I bought in again around 6.47 to try to recoup and actually got a nice chunk back over the last couple days. I'm actually mad at myself because I couldn't get into my brokerage account fast enough trying to buy in on morning and could've been in around 5.50.


Have fun with the nasty wash sale rule. That thing isn't fun at all. But it's all in place to protect the average guy, ain't that right, SEC?

Anyway, they actually came up with the interest payment during the grace period. S&P still has their debt as CCC-, expecting bankruptcy, default or debt restructuring in the next 6 months. They expect liquidity issues and another decrease in SGY's lending facility. If SGY can avoid that, they still have $300 million to pay back in loans in March 2017.

And despite all of that, people are falling over each other to buy a stock with an EPS of -$172.
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