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Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:59 pm to LSUtoOmaha
Good luck, man. I got out back when it was above 20. The way it's been falling, it's tough not to bite, but I feel like my money can do better elsewhere long term.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 3:03 pm to LSUtoOmaha
1/17 18 calls at 2.00
Let's roll
Let's roll
Posted on 9/30/14 at 3:57 pm to Ole War Skule
I don't think quite yet. I don't see capitulation per the COT reports. I do see enormous opportunity, but I'm not going long paper silver yet.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 5:44 pm to Iowa Golfer
buy now because it cant survive long at below 17. it will shoot back up to at least 20 before christmas. you can book that as a fact!
Posted on 9/30/14 at 6:16 pm to Iowa Golfer
Too late. Already in. I know decay is a big issue, but I think I'm in pretty good shape having till 2017 to see a spike of some sort.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 6:34 pm to Ole War Skule
I think so. Depending on how you factor all in costs, this isn't sustainable.
What's interesting to me is the relationship between Fed policy, notwithstanding the one recent contrarian comment by a Fed banker which apparently sent equities tumbling, and decreased industrial demand for silver. Decreased industrial demand period, excluding silver.
I don't know what to make of the recovery, or non recovery, whichever it is. Benny and one the other guy on here likely know the answers I guess. I don't.
What's interesting to me is the relationship between Fed policy, notwithstanding the one recent contrarian comment by a Fed banker which apparently sent equities tumbling, and decreased industrial demand for silver. Decreased industrial demand period, excluding silver.
I don't know what to make of the recovery, or non recovery, whichever it is. Benny and one the other guy on here likely know the answers I guess. I don't.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:02 pm to Ole War Skule
quote:Only for leveraged etf's.
I know decay is a big issue
From what I read about SLV, it is not leveraged so decay is not a factor in its NAV.
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:12 pm to LSURussian
Options decay my little Soviet interwebz friend.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:12 pm to LSURussian
I bought calls on slv, not slv itself.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:26 pm to Ole War Skule
quote:My bad. Sorry.
I bought calls on slv, not slv itself.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 8:44 am to LSURussian
Got out at $16.59. Nice 1.7% gain
Posted on 10/3/14 at 11:48 am to ynlvr
16.22 now. This seems like a no brainer.
Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:14 pm to bayoubengals88
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16.22 now. This seems like a no brainer.
well, it was falling fast and didn't seem to want to stop, I was wondering if it was just going to go to 0.00
finally stopped at 16.04, crawled back up, but it really seems to wants to fall again....looks like lowest price since Feb 2010...4.5 years ?!?!
Some of the guys here seem to know something about banks manipulating the market in some way..I'd appreciate an update on that if anyone is listening
thanks
Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:31 pm to bayoubengals88
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This seems like a no brainer.
How is that? People moved to silver when shite was hitting the fan in the economy. More and more people are moving out of precious metals and into stocks.
I wouldn't buy silver at all right now.
Am I missing something?
Posted on 10/3/14 at 3:08 pm to I Love Bama
I wouldn't buy quite yet. You guys do what you want. I am silver bull about as big as they come meaning I actually own the metal.
What I'm waiting for, and it isn't a guaranty, is producers to start shutting down mines.
Having said this, there are tons of oil companies and miners trading below book value right now. I'd be more careful with miners and only buy the quality operations that produce several metals, and not all precious metals.
What I am contemplating for paper trades is buying 2016 leaps on GLD and probably trying to make the market for calls on SILJ as there is no market out as far as they go, and maybe buy the paper ETF SIL as it pays a small dividend. And wait.
As far as stacking more silver, I haven't done anything further. I think probably the same holds true as the paper. Wait for miners to suspend operations, wait for the COT reports to see where the big guys are at (and see where they want to move the price) and wait on Uncle Sug.
I don't think anything will be happening any time soon. I don't know though. World crisis could change that in a hurry, but really impact gold more and I think there is a new gold to silver ratio based on the last several years of pricing.
What I'm waiting for, and it isn't a guaranty, is producers to start shutting down mines.
Having said this, there are tons of oil companies and miners trading below book value right now. I'd be more careful with miners and only buy the quality operations that produce several metals, and not all precious metals.
What I am contemplating for paper trades is buying 2016 leaps on GLD and probably trying to make the market for calls on SILJ as there is no market out as far as they go, and maybe buy the paper ETF SIL as it pays a small dividend. And wait.
As far as stacking more silver, I haven't done anything further. I think probably the same holds true as the paper. Wait for miners to suspend operations, wait for the COT reports to see where the big guys are at (and see where they want to move the price) and wait on Uncle Sug.
I don't think anything will be happening any time soon. I don't know though. World crisis could change that in a hurry, but really impact gold more and I think there is a new gold to silver ratio based on the last several years of pricing.
Posted on 10/3/14 at 9:26 pm to brbowhunter
I cut my teeth on precious metals a long time ago. There's not a better investment IMO. Now is the time to get in the mix. It's a safe play and the bottom will never fall out on you.
Posted on 10/3/14 at 10:15 pm to PaBon
I meant GDX, not GLD in the above post.
Posted on 10/4/14 at 8:58 am to kennypowers816
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I just want to know how long I should wait to buy it. The cheaper I can get it, the more I can buy and the easier it will be for me live out my dream of being scrooge mcduck (except with silver coins).
Start now. With this price dip, your potential downside is minimized. Silver does have numerous industrial uses so it's not like it can go to zero. My conspiracy theorist inside thinks the money changers are driving to down to accumulate again while they drive up stocks. Once they dump their stocks(after Joe 6pack dumps all his into stocks) they'll sit back and watch their silver/gold/platinum/palladium skyrocket again. They will sell...slowly keeping prices up until they dump their reserves and then buy up stocks at depressed prices. Rinse and repeat cyclically for the next 1000 years...or more.
Posted on 10/4/14 at 9:08 am to PaBon
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Now is the time to get in the mix. It's a safe play and the bottom will never fall out on you.
oh....it can go lower!!! But it'll come back up. I like silver over gold. I may be deluded by false info, but it has more industrial uses and a more limited supply or at least harder to ramp up in face of rising demand. Now one area that silver is losing all of it's demand is xray. NOt sure how much of silver demand is due to that, but previously it was substantial. Even when silver was priced about where it is now, my xray film price/month was enough to pay for a new state of the art computerized machine for my office. Cut my need for silver containing films to $0. Have not found good info on the price impact of this world wide as other providers upgrade. And yes. We sell our expired films for a premium. At current prices I'm have a place that will return my physical silver that is extracted for a minimal processing price.
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