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re: SLV - Holy Cow! Down to $17.16

Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:52 pm to
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26578 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:52 pm to
Just purchased 315 shares at $16.31
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84986 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:59 pm to
Good luck, man. I got out back when it was above 20. The way it's been falling, it's tough not to bite, but I feel like my money can do better elsewhere long term.
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 3:03 pm to
1/17 18 calls at 2.00

Let's roll
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10230 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 3:57 pm to
I don't think quite yet. I don't see capitulation per the COT reports. I do see enormous opportunity, but I'm not going long paper silver yet.
Posted by brbowhunter
baton rouge
Member since Apr 2013
851 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 5:44 pm to
buy now because it cant survive long at below 17. it will shoot back up to at least 20 before christmas. you can book that as a fact!
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 6:16 pm to
Too late. Already in. I know decay is a big issue, but I think I'm in pretty good shape having till 2017 to see a spike of some sort.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10230 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 6:34 pm to
I think so. Depending on how you factor all in costs, this isn't sustainable.

What's interesting to me is the relationship between Fed policy, notwithstanding the one recent contrarian comment by a Fed banker which apparently sent equities tumbling, and decreased industrial demand for silver. Decreased industrial demand period, excluding silver.

I don't know what to make of the recovery, or non recovery, whichever it is. Benny and one the other guy on here likely know the answers I guess. I don't.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:02 pm to
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I know decay is a big issue
Only for leveraged etf's.

From what I read about SLV, it is not leveraged so decay is not a factor in its NAV.
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 7:02 pm
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10230 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:12 pm to
Options decay my little Soviet interwebz friend.
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:12 pm to
I bought calls on slv, not slv itself.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:26 pm to
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I bought calls on slv, not slv itself.
My bad. Sorry.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26578 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 8:44 am to
Got out at $16.59. Nice 1.7% gain
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18907 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 11:48 am to
16.22 now. This seems like a no brainer.
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:14 pm to
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16.22 now. This seems like a no brainer.



well, it was falling fast and didn't seem to want to stop, I was wondering if it was just going to go to 0.00

finally stopped at 16.04, crawled back up, but it really seems to wants to fall again....looks like lowest price since Feb 2010...4.5 years ?!?!

Some of the guys here seem to know something about banks manipulating the market in some way..I'd appreciate an update on that if anyone is listening

thanks
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37701 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

This seems like a no brainer.


How is that? People moved to silver when shite was hitting the fan in the economy. More and more people are moving out of precious metals and into stocks.

I wouldn't buy silver at all right now.

Am I missing something?
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10230 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 3:08 pm to
I wouldn't buy quite yet. You guys do what you want. I am silver bull about as big as they come meaning I actually own the metal.

What I'm waiting for, and it isn't a guaranty, is producers to start shutting down mines.

Having said this, there are tons of oil companies and miners trading below book value right now. I'd be more careful with miners and only buy the quality operations that produce several metals, and not all precious metals.

What I am contemplating for paper trades is buying 2016 leaps on GLD and probably trying to make the market for calls on SILJ as there is no market out as far as they go, and maybe buy the paper ETF SIL as it pays a small dividend. And wait.

As far as stacking more silver, I haven't done anything further. I think probably the same holds true as the paper. Wait for miners to suspend operations, wait for the COT reports to see where the big guys are at (and see where they want to move the price) and wait on Uncle Sug.

I don't think anything will be happening any time soon. I don't know though. World crisis could change that in a hurry, but really impact gold more and I think there is a new gold to silver ratio based on the last several years of pricing.
Posted by PaBon
UPT 17th W/D
Member since Sep 2014
1891 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 9:26 pm to
I cut my teeth on precious metals a long time ago. There's not a better investment IMO. Now is the time to get in the mix. It's a safe play and the bottom will never fall out on you.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10230 posts
Posted on 10/3/14 at 10:15 pm to
I meant GDX, not GLD in the above post.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27329 posts
Posted on 10/4/14 at 8:58 am to
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I just want to know how long I should wait to buy it. The cheaper I can get it, the more I can buy and the easier it will be for me live out my dream of being scrooge mcduck (except with silver coins).

Start now. With this price dip, your potential downside is minimized. Silver does have numerous industrial uses so it's not like it can go to zero. My conspiracy theorist inside thinks the money changers are driving to down to accumulate again while they drive up stocks. Once they dump their stocks(after Joe 6pack dumps all his into stocks) they'll sit back and watch their silver/gold/platinum/palladium skyrocket again. They will sell...slowly keeping prices up until they dump their reserves and then buy up stocks at depressed prices. Rinse and repeat cyclically for the next 1000 years...or more.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27329 posts
Posted on 10/4/14 at 9:08 am to
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Now is the time to get in the mix. It's a safe play and the bottom will never fall out on you.


oh....it can go lower!!! But it'll come back up. I like silver over gold. I may be deluded by false info, but it has more industrial uses and a more limited supply or at least harder to ramp up in face of rising demand. Now one area that silver is losing all of it's demand is xray. NOt sure how much of silver demand is due to that, but previously it was substantial. Even when silver was priced about where it is now, my xray film price/month was enough to pay for a new state of the art computerized machine for my office. Cut my need for silver containing films to $0. Have not found good info on the price impact of this world wide as other providers upgrade. And yes. We sell our expired films for a premium. At current prices I'm have a place that will return my physical silver that is extracted for a minimal processing price.
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