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re: Simplest way to begin investing in crypto

Posted on 3/25/21 at 9:25 am to
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/25/21 at 9:25 am to
Depends on if Voyager pays the network fees, I am not familiar with them. Exchanges like Coinbase and Cash App pay the fee so I usually move my BTC off of the exchange as soon as I can onto my cold storage wallet. Unless you are earning interest in a wallet on Blockfi, Celsius, ect, there is no reason to keep your coins on an exchange. I'll admit, I'm much more security concerned than the average poster on here. 99.999% of the time you will be fine leaving stuff on an exchange.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 9:47 am to
id say in most cases, unless youre wallet/tech savvy, keeping your coins on an exchange is safer.

exchanges have insurance if something bizarre happens, while if you frick up and lose your keys, its over. im not suggesting its hard to lose your keys, because its not, but it does happen often.

overall my point is, i wouldnt be too worried about leaving my coins on voyager or coinbase or cashapp - these are publically traded companies (or will be soon)
Posted by DukeSilver
Member since Jan 2014
2719 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 11:18 am to
Ok, I was under the impression your USD was safe/insured on at least Coinbase (not sure on Voyager) but that your coins were not. May have changed though.

I need to look more in to Voyager as that seems like the place to be.
This post was edited on 3/25/21 at 11:22 am
Posted by Bullfrog
Institutionalized but Unevaluated
Member since Jul 2010
56125 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 1:06 pm to
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ya'll immediately moving it to a hardware wallet or are there any protections on having it sit in my Voyager account
If you don’t have the private keys to your crypto, you don’t own it.

If it’s more than a week’s pay, store it off of the exchange. Move back if you’re trading or exchanging to another crypto.

Then move back to your wallet when your transactions are done.

ETA: There has been a continual history of the exchanges freezing up in times of volatility. When that happens, you can’t access your account or do anything with it but wait. Who needs that??
This post was edited on 3/25/21 at 1:13 pm
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 8:58 am to
Yea I made a mistake using Coinbase. I never really care about fees, but these punched you in the face
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:30 am to
So who is on BlockFi? The interest seems to be a huge positive. Are there downsides.
Posted by down time
space
Member since Oct 2013
1914 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 11:19 pm to
I like watching Flori's interviews she is sharp. Seems like blockfi is a good outfit.
Posted by CecilShortsHisPants
One Foty Fo uh uh Magnolia Screet
Member since Oct 2012
2811 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 1:32 am to
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I like watching Flori's interviews she is sharp


You dine in at Hooters because the wings are good huh?

eta: No disrespect to Flori, its possible to be beautiful and sharp at the same time.
This post was edited on 6/15/21 at 1:36 am
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30234 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:23 am to
Sign up for Coinbase and link a bank account.

Buy $100 of Btc, eth, and Chainlink each. This will get you started to at least have a stake in the game and start paying attention every day to on-going trends. Pick an amount to deposit in ones you like, even if it's just $20 (that's exactly what I do, $20) and make purchases in that increment of those above and the 100's of other coins. See what you can learn from it and go from there.

Reading articles and message boards are important too, but you need to get a skin in the game to really start learning. All I've learned so far is that I'm a year into it and have no real clue how any of it works. Lol
This post was edited on 6/15/21 at 9:24 am
Posted by NEMizzou
Columbia MO
Member since Nov 2013
1369 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 3:58 pm to
I have some of mine in a decentralized wallet and some on Voyager; Voyager is nice because you earn interest and it's super easy. If I was dipping my toes, I'd just keep everything on the exchange unless I had either tons of money in there or any money I couldn't afford to lose. I have faith that Voyager won't lose my money but I suppose in theory it could happen (although more likely for me to lose my keys than it is for Voyager to get hacked probably).

One nice thing too is that USDC earns interest, so even if you just use your Voyager as a savings account you'll earn 9% vs. .5% in a bank.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
8111 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 11:47 am to
Coinbase Pro is the only answer. Less fees and you can set limit orders.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
8111 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 11:49 am to
Voyager is awful. They rape people with the spreads. Orders never fill unless it is wayyyy over the price you set to sell or way less than the price you set to buy.

I never understood how others could recommend voyager unless they don’t realize themselves how bad they’re being raped.
This post was edited on 9/22/21 at 11:53 am
Posted by GoIrish02
Member since Mar 2012
1386 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 12:45 pm to
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I never understood how others could recommend voyager unless they don’t realize themselves how bad they’re being raped.


This is the first time I've heard something bad about Voyager on their operations, I appreciate any feedback you've got on this issue. Voyager seems to have avoided any scrutiny on their interest program as a broker versus competition (e.g. Coinbase). Otherwise Voyager seems pretty savvy as the CEO was a finance guy versus the other places that are just exchanges learning how to be finance providers.

Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 12:52 pm to
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This is the first time I've heard something bad about Voyager on their operations


Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27053 posts
Posted on 10/22/21 at 8:02 am to
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This is the first time I've heard something bad about Voyager on their operations


A few issues I have with voyager: it's smartphone/tablet only, I have to manually input transactions in my tax software because they don't have any API and their csv export is worthless, and it took three days to withdrawal my latest Eth transaction. That said, they do have decent rates and I still keep some stuff on there for those rates. They also have very convenient auto-buys. I just wish they'd fix a few things to make it easier to use them.

I use CBP for most of my buys these days. Majority of my property sits in cold storage.
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