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re: Sign on bonuses with no matching raise the next year

Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:09 pm to
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41782 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:09 pm to
No one has a response to your liking because this is seriously one of the dumbest threads I have ever read. No one would even get a one time bonus and then think they are entitled to a raise that matches the bonus the following year because their salary needs to match.
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:11 pm to
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So, was said employee wronged or not in his example?

Intrinsically yes.
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3684 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:12 pm to
A dipshit wouldn't likely make it past our psych / personality / judgment index testing. We have an excellent record there.

What you are exhibiting is an undeserved and unjustified sense of entitlement. If you truly felt this way and actually had the balls to tell me about it, I would clearly explain to you what most people on here have tried to do so. Then I would tell you that you have a decision to make. Stay and STFU forever more with your nonsense or leave. I would then also put a note in your file regarding your seriously warped sense of entitlement and that you should never be in a supervisory position due to your poor analytical skills. You are clearly dumbass material.

But hey, don't listen to me. Carry on this way and I'm sure your future will be bright.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15573 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:12 pm to
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Intrinsically yes.


you are a lost cause.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37363 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:12 pm to
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Intrinsically yes


Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:16 pm to
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It shows you have no idea what you are talking about. You complain about total compensation, I lay out a VERY real world scenario of many on this board where their total compensation is drastically (a lot more tan $2k) different between 2 years. 

You haven't provided sufficient context and that's a fact. Deal with it how you want. Present the scenario in the full context you provided and no one could ascertain if the employee made more or less one year compared to the other without more information. FACTS. I'm sorry you have industry experiences that proves your point and you beloeve that is general knowledge but you aren't laying out the full context and so from a person who does not have your knowledge of the specific scenario you provided fricking Einstein couldn't answer it.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 10:17 pm
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24713 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:17 pm to
OP wants to use an Excel =MAX() formula on his annual earnings for his entire career.

Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3684 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:18 pm to
Holy $hit you're stupid. I'm done.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37363 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:18 pm to
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41782 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:18 pm to
I was contracted out to work the oil spill which basically gave me 1.5x my salary with 3 months of working 60 hour weeks. Do you seriously think from that point on working normal 40 hour weeks I should have had the same salary as that year? Should I have bitched when I got a 6% raise and didn’t match the money I made a year prior?
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11811 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:19 pm to
Y'all stop feeding this troll. I can't believe this is still rolling.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37363 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:20 pm to
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Y'all stop feeding this troll. I can't believe this is still rolling.



Shhhhh. Don’t tell me how to have my fun.
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11811 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:20 pm to
Lol. Y'all have fun. I'll catch up tomorrow.
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:22 pm to
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A dipshit wouldn't likely make it past our psych / personality / judgment index testing. We have an excellent record there. 

Those are about the easiest things to bs in the world.
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What you are exhibiting is an undeserved and unjustified sense of entitlement.

No clearly you feel entitled to call me a dumbass because I have the "audacity" to complain.
quote:

you truly felt this way and actually had the balls to tell me about it, I would clearly explain to you what most people on here have tried to do so. Then I would tell you that you have a decision to make. Stay and STFU forever more with your nonsense or leave. 

That's not balls that's just called retarded. Obviously you are fricking stupid to think anyone with the intelligence to even type this post would actually compalin the way I have in this thread in person. Obviously this is not the way you way you talk to your superiors but that's not who I'm talking to. I'm talking to random dudes like you on a football website.
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You are clearly dumbass material

Clearly you are self-important a-hole material
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:24 pm to
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I was contracted out to work the oil spill which basically gave me 1.5x my salary with 3 months of working 60 hour weeks. Do you seriously think from that point on working normal 40 hour weeks I should have had the same salary as that year? Should I have bitched when I got a 6% raise and didn’t match the money I made a year prior?

Did you do the same kind of work? Did you provide the same or more value to your company? Clearly you did not. This is the worst example so far.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:27 pm to
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Fine by me as long as I keep getting paid more.


And 7 years from now when you’re applying for your 6th job you’ll be wondering why your friends from school and co-workers at this job have been promoted and make more money than you.
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:28 pm to
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Holy $hit you're stupid. I'm done

Holy $hit you're an a-hole with no point.
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:29 pm to
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And 7 years from now when you’re applying for your 6th job you’ll be wondering why your friends from school and co-workers at this job have been promoted and make more money than you.

That's assuming none of those job changes were promotional and that I had the same experience with every company. Your argument is weak.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15573 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:29 pm to
Your ENTIRE argument is that you feel slighted because you won't be making as much total compensation in the next year as the previous year.

You believe because you got a one time bonus last year, you deserve that bonus again plus your base salary. I tell you a real world scenario where someone would have less total compensation and all of a sudden you are lost and need some bullshite "FACTS" because I proved you wrong.

You want a full scenario:

A new grad in my line of work has a base salary of $70k. If they are on a project working onsite, they get straight time OT for anything over 40 hrs, a monthly per diem of $3500 post tax ($5333 and some change pre-tax). All moving expenses are reimbursed by the company, per diem for housing, meals, incidentals. Project is a success and has a 10% completion bonus if they stay to the end. The net sum if they work all the OT but still use there vacation time, total compensation for a year is ~ $157,822.92.

If the new grad spends all of the next year in the home office where there is no OT, per diem, etc, their total compensation is $70,000.

By your logic, their new base should be $157,822.92.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41782 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:29 pm to
This year are you being recruited to the company? Do they need a hedge to keep you and make sure their not wasting money training you? That is what a signing bonus is. Any salary for a position has a min value and a max value. You now have a salary (that number you agreed to that has an hourly rate associated with it) inline with your peers and your experience. I really hope this whole thread is a troll and we are all just taking the bait.
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