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re: QE3

Posted on 9/13/12 at 1:04 pm to
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
17110 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

in turn providing the banks with additional funds to continue making loans.




Which there may or may not be a demand for.


Agree with this.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 1:04 pm to
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To Benny, Hedge, Janky -


I understand what is going on, but don't put me in the same league as these guys when it comes to this.
Posted by OnTheBrink
TN
Member since Mar 2012
5418 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 1:06 pm to
Whats the MB's opinion on the market after this news? False rally or will it continue to move higher?
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5623 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

Whats the MB's opinion on the market after this news? False rally or will it continue to move higher?
Actual QE3 has been priced into the market for some time. The future movements of the market from this point on out will depend on data and Europe announcements, although I believe we have insulated ourselves from European headline risk somewhat with this announcement.

By insulated I'm referring to the left tail of the distribution.
This post was edited on 9/13/12 at 1:12 pm
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
7920 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 3:23 pm to
Time for the final leg up of the commodity boom. I think the SPR will be used to keep oil down going into the election. Unless this very convenient Middle East flare up is used as the oil run up cause.
Posted by Interception
Member since Nov 2008
11089 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 3:58 pm to
I would be too scared to bet against oil from here into the election.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119556 posts
Posted on 9/14/12 at 12:18 pm to
How does the Fed determine the rate at which to ease?
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 9/14/12 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25446 posts
Posted on 9/14/12 at 2:05 pm to
Good one.
This post was edited on 9/14/12 at 2:06 pm
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
17110 posts
Posted on 9/14/12 at 4:08 pm to
Dollar

Oil

quote:

Dammit. This will drive the dollar down and oil up.


Like I said yesterday, Oil spiked close to $100 a barrel and the dollar dropped. Click link, you can see the sell off in red.
This post was edited on 9/14/12 at 4:16 pm
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5623 posts
Posted on 9/14/12 at 4:59 pm to
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How does the Fed determine the rate at which to ease?

Depends on the market supply that they are targeting. For MBS, they look at the float outstanding and the origination going forward. For treasuries, its about issuance and outstanding.

This is why the Fed can't target treasuries with this. There is only about $940B of 10-30 year treasuries outstanding and the Fed has a 70% limit on issues. Since they already own a huge portion of 10-30s, if they start getting close to that 70% limit not only is the curve stupid flat but they actually suck the liquidity out of the market. That could increase rate volatility which is what the Fed does not want to do.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119556 posts
Posted on 9/14/12 at 6:45 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119556 posts
Posted on 9/14/12 at 6:48 pm to
Posted by Northgate
Member since Jul 2012
2527 posts
Posted on 9/14/12 at 9:01 pm to
I am not a fan of the Bernank, but what can he do? Congress is out of control and won't / can't cut spending and raise revenue. Even if they could, we couldn't make the debt work.

So, cook the books on inflation and employment, print money, and hope all turn out well.

Personally, I see this ending in some sort of revolution in the US, so anything we can do to postpone this may be good.
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