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Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26654 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 12:20 pm to
Very good day today thus far. MSFT short put spread is working well and VXX puts are also working well.

Added a long VRTX call.

More short put spreads likely coming near close if we can hold above moving averages.
Posted by Brobocop
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2018
2004 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 3:38 pm to
Haven’t posted in a while, but 0DTE Iron Flies continue to absolutely crush it this year.

Today was a great day. Premium was incredibly high. I sold 2 and bought back for +$4.50 total.
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
2578 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 3:43 pm to
decided to roll the dice on the whole bank fiasco

bought a PACW 6/16 $27c

PACW has a good looking balance sheet so i figured theyll make it back into the $27 range sometime soon-ish...i hope
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

Very good day today thus far. MSFT short put spread is working well


CML Trade Machine nailed that one. The technicals won out over the deltas there.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 5:47 pm to
quote:

Haven’t posted in a while, but 0DTE Iron Flies continue to absolutely crush it this year.

Today was a great day. Premium was incredibly high. I sold 2 and bought back for +$4.50 total.


I agree. Over the past couple of days it’s been nice to finally have the VIX at a high enough level where we could make some good money vs. risk. My 3/17 short syn. strangles are close to max profit, same with the 3/17 SPVs from yesterday and the 0DTE SPVs I sold today died a quiet death.

But I haven’t forgotten that Mike Tyson style beatdown I took on that SPX rally a couple of weeks ago. So I’ll remain humble, yet thankful for days like we’ve had recently.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26654 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 7:41 pm to
Are you buying way otm options on the strangles to make an iron condor?
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
21254 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 8:17 pm to
Nibbled today with about 2% of my account.
Made a quick 10.7% on a 4/6 BABA long call.
Made 11.7% on a QQQ 1 DTE put, following tasty trades findings that 25 deltas are best on these short expiry’s. These trades were on for just 5-15 minutes.

A couple of things I won’t do anymore:
1) No more trading 30-40% at one time (ideally no trades exceeding 5%).
2) No more 0 DTEs
Thankfully I have come out ahead doing both, but there’s no sense in it long term.

Perhaps you can tell where I began trading long calls/puts…
This post was edited on 3/14/23 at 8:22 pm
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26654 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 8:50 pm to
Nice work! Yeah no reason to exceed 5% risk on any one trade. 2% is better. If you have a + Expected Value strategy you want to give yourself as many chances as reasonably possible to be right.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
21254 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 10:18 pm to
I’m hearing the same from both Option Alpha and Tasty.

Question for anyone with experience:
Is Barchart Premium worth the money?
What does it give access to?
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 10:44 pm to
quote:

Are you buying way otm options on the strangles to make an iron condor?


Yes, on the synthetic strangles the protective wings are just “junk options”, as Sosnoff calls them. On average, when I’m trading shorter dated contracts, they’re usually about 100 points wide. When I trade size, or longer dated syn. strangle contracts, they’re typically a bit narrower (say 50 +/-) and I trade more contracts.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 10:49 pm to
You had a very good day Congrats!

quote:

Barchart Premium


I’m not familiar with that service. You’re looking for technical charting to use for your prospective long positions?
Posted by Brobocop
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2018
2004 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:14 am to
Another solid day!

Sold a Synthetic strangle at open. Shorts were 200 pts wide!

Also sold a 30 DTE SPY and QQQ strangle into this nice Vol pop.

I foolishly did not play my 0DTE IF this morning. The strike would have been 3860-3865, and would've been a significant winner.
Posted by LSUcam7
FL
Member since Sep 2016
8451 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:05 am to
Mock 1DTE trade here

OXY Mar 17 58.00 calls

Last trade at $0.55
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26654 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:10 am to
And today is an absolute mess
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5403 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 11:56 am to
Just did some bull put spreads on both DVN and OXY. Way oversold. 57/55 on OXY and 45/43 on DVN.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

And today is an absolute mess


It darn near was!

I sold a fair number of 0DTE short call verticals on SPX during the noon hour. 3895 short strikes. Started well enough, then looked not so good, then good, then bad… then OK about 10 minutes before the bell at 3880 or so. Seemed like I was safe, or I would have closed. I had to go to a short meeting… and when I checked the closing number, it was at 3891.93 and got as high as 3894.26!!!

I swear I heard Tom Petty singing Don’t Come Around Here No More in my head. That was way too close for comfort!
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
21254 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 7:56 pm to
I was looking at Barchart as a screener.

How did you determine your strike price on that SPX trade?
Was it a large trade? If you care to answer…
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
21254 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 8:13 pm to
For anyone:
What’s next to learn after CSPs and CCs?
Posted by Brobocop
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2018
2004 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 8:20 pm to
I would start with defined risk strategies first.

Vertical credit and debit spreads.
Iron Condors
Butterflies/ Broken-Wing-Butterflies.

How to execute and manage defined-risk strategies is a good start.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26654 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 8:20 pm to
Iron Condors are good. They are direction neutral (you're not betting on the stock to go up or down, you're betting on the size of the move being less than the option prices imply), and they are also risk capped, because you're basically just selling two spreads.

Diagonals can also be good. You sell a short dated call option pretty far out of the money, and buy a longer dated option less out of the money, or at the money. It's bullish, but hedges the cost of the long dated call a bit by selling the closer dated call.
This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 8:21 pm
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