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Once again, credit scores are a scam

Posted on 2/19/24 at 2:24 pm
Posted by HeartAttackTiger
Member since Sep 2009
418 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 2:24 pm
My soft credit score, according to credit wise, was 835. It was showing, for almost 2 months, that I owed $115 on a cc. I did not owe that but whatever.

Now, according to credit wise, my credit score is 825. It shows I owe $11 on a cc, which I don't but again, whatever.

Reasonable logic would seem to say my credit score should go up, assuming less debt. Credit scores are a scam.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82010 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 2:36 pm to
This kind of "drop" is not worth the heart attack, Tiger.
Can't imagine a scenario where that would matter
Posted by Roy Curado
Member since Jul 2021
968 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 2:48 pm to
Credit scores are just a numeric value to help consumers gauge their creditworthiness. Most people cannot tell you if their credit profile is poor, good, very good, or excellent if you remove the "score" portion of their credit profile. There are few financial institutions, if any, that approve loans, credit, mortgages, etc, solemnly based on your numeric score value.
Posted by HeartAttackTiger
Member since Sep 2009
418 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 2:50 pm to
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This kind of "drop" is not worth the heart attack, Tiger.
Can't imagine a scenario where that would matter


Absolutely agree. It is just a matter of principle - owe less should equate to a higher credit score.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73312 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 4:16 pm to
If you ran a Fico credit pull your score would be a 790

Who gives a shite since you are over 720
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25568 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 4:22 pm to
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Reasonable logic


Credit scores are not reasonable logic.

They are a quantifiable analysis of your chances that you will become 90 days past due on your debt.

And it isn't just 1 credit score card.
The repositories use about 8 scorecards. Someone 20 years old with limited history does not get placed on the same rubrik as someone who is 40 years old and has paid off 3 mortgages as agreed.

Quit looking at a credit score like a dick measuring contest and you will be much happier in life.
Posted by Miglez
Member since Jan 2018
283 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 5:43 pm to
Only poor people care about their credit score. Unless you are buying a house it's irrelevant.
Posted by Sterling Archer
Austin
Member since Aug 2012
7297 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 11:52 am to
Your rate isn't going to change much after around 760.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29247 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:08 pm to
Oh yeah

I was around 810-815

Mailed a check to my mortgage company.. it got FUBAR’d in their sorter.

It somehow got mailed back to me weeks after it was supposed be cashed by mortgage company.
The check was late. I didn’t realize they never got it until then . Got hit with a missed payment on my credit report.

Nukes my stellar credit score down 100 points. All the way to the 720’s.

One “missed” payment not even due to my fault.

3 years later and it’s around 775 now and on my credit report as a ding.. it shows missed payment as what’s bringing my score down. That is the one missed payment it’s referring to


Such horseshite
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84747 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 9:04 pm to
If you care this much about your credit score you’ve bought into the “scam” hook line and sinker.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18734 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 7:35 am to
quote:

Reasonable logic would seem to say my credit score should go up, assuming less debt.


Nope. Pay off your mortgage, and after some time your score will likely be less than a similar person who is timely paying on a big mortgage debt. I paid mine off early, and my credit report now says that my score is reduced for no recent history of mortgage service. LOL.

If your score is 800+, then you may be able to take the position of my dad. He got in a dispute with a merchant who threatened that the issue would affect his credit report. Dad replied that he did not need credit, so he did not give a shite.
Posted by HeartAttackTiger
Member since Sep 2009
418 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:32 am to
quote:

Nope. Pay off your mortgage, and after some time your score will likely be less than a similar person who is timely paying on a big mortgage debt. I paid mine off early, and my credit report now says that my score is reduced for no recent history of mortgage service. LOL.

If your score is 800+, then you may be able to take the position of my dad. He got in a dispute with a merchant who threatened that the issue would affect his credit report. Dad replied that he did not need credit, so he did not give a shite.


Fortunately, mortgage is paid off. I'm in a blessed position, owing nothing at this point. Of course, that will change with my next vehicle purchase.

Again, not concerned about my credit score at all. Just another example of it being a scam.
Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
1708 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

Pay off your mortgage, and after some time your score will likely be less than a similar person who is timely paying on a big mortgage debt.


My son was 21 years old and my dad was 75. Dad had no debt and plenty of money in the bank and in investments. Paid cash for his last few cars, house paid off for decades, etc. He and my son went to look at apartments and the rental office suggested running my dad’s credit for the lease. They turned him down because of “no credit.” My son, however, was fine as far as credit even though he was a college student with a fast food job. WTF.
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