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Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:18 pm to
Posted by CBarkleytruth
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:18 pm to
VET was the big one a few months ago on here... $0.00 right now haha
Posted by Bullfrog
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 1:32 am to
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We got suckered .
Yep. Brutally.

The Caddyshack County Club owners woke up a year ago, horrified to find their exclusive financial club was being overrun by us trashy caddies.

Now they are just about complete at running us off the course and assuming their proper place.

Stash a few coins for a rainy day as you can.

Cause when this hits final bottom next year, BTC could ultimately fall to $700-$800 before it reverses.

But we’ll see. This stuff never does what you expect.

But it must get easier to use before it gets widely adopted. And that is coming.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:46 am to
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Cause when this hits final bottom next year, BTC could ultimately fall to $700-$800 before it reverses.


well to be fair, that was literally the price range a short 2 years ago
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 8:56 am to
How much does it cost to mine 1 bitcoin? I've seen average estimates between a little over $2k to almost $5k. If that is true, what happens when the price drops below the cost of mining the bitcoin? How is the system maintained without miners?
Posted by Bullfrog
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 12:06 pm to
The miners get transaction fees for processing transactions in exchange for supporting the network.

2020 summer is the “halving” where the bitcoin mining rewards are cut in half. Don’t know what will happen then.

Fixed: It’s the LiteCoin halving next August.

This post was edited on 12/7/18 at 12:39 pm
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 12:15 pm to
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Next summer is the “halving” where the bitcoin mining rewards are cut in half.
How is/was that determined?

As you can tell, I don't fully understand btc.
Posted by Bullfrog
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 12:46 pm to
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The halving helps to sustain the mining reward system over a longer period of time. Initially, the mining reward was 50 BTC. Without the system of halving, we would still be releasing Bitcoins at 50 BTC every 10 minutes. At this rate, we would have reached the maximum supply cap of Bitcoin, i.e. 21 million coins in just eight years. This means the process of mining on the network would stop after eight years. By halving the rewards every 210,000 blocks, we are ensuring the continuation of the mining process for a substantial period of time.

Bitcoin halving explained

This is an easy to understand overview of the halving process and reasoning.
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 12:59 pm to
Thanks. It seems as if there is a value of btc below which there is no incentive to mine. Is that true? If so, what happens to the system when mining dries up?
Posted by Douglas Quaid
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 3:02 pm to
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there is a value of btc below which there is no incentive to mine. Is that true?

Yes, but as that happens more and more miners drop off the network which reduces the mining difficulty. As mining difficulty goes down the cost to mine goes down with it as there is less hashing power on the network to compete with.

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what happens to the system when mining dries up?

Theoretically, the network would continue simply by fees added to transactions. Realistically, Bitcoin will be effectively dead before then.
Posted by Bullfrog
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Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:55 pm to
The last block of bitcoin is estimated to be mined in 2140.

So we’ve got a while for it to continue. But it’s possible it becomes so expensive to mine, it may never happen. Or tech could speed things up. Or everything could change and it not be needed.

Dunno. A few variables have to sort themselves out along the way.

But it’s setup for the long run.
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 12/8/18 at 6:10 pm to
The bitcoin mining difficulty is self correcting though, at least in theory.

If mining is too expensive, people doing it at a loss obviously quit doing it, but the more people that quit doing it, the easier mining gets and thus the more cost effective it becomes again.

Even if bitcoin fades into being a novelty again trading for a few bucks, there will still be people mining it hoping that one day it will go back up. I mean that's how bitcoin operated for years in the beginning.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 7:44 am to
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the easier mining gets


ummm...I dont think thats how it works
Posted by LSUneaux
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Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 10:04 pm to
How can I sell/get rid of VTHO? I want to clear out my binance, but it is saying I can't trade it.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 8:51 am to
I'll take it, need an address?
Posted by pcolatiger28
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Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/13/18 at 5:23 pm to
Rookie Question: I just setup my nano ledger and transferred a small amount from the exchange. Everything looks good. When my physical ledger is not plugged in, the ledger live app still shows my balances. I assume it's just displaying the last balance it saw. I guess what i'm trying to make sure of is, how to I determine if my crypto is stored locally to the device and not in ledgers online system. Please forgive my ignorance as i'm not sure how it works behind the scenes. TIA
Posted by DreauxB2015
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 12/20/18 at 12:00 pm to
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how to I determine if my crypto is stored locally to the device and not in ledgers online system


Ledger stores zero crypto . Only thing ledger nano stores is your private keys to access it in whatever wallet you stored the crypto in. Im not sure where you sent it so I cant say where its at but its not in the ledger . Heres an example . If you have an ERC20 token and use MyEtherwallet and you send crypto to MEW its stored on the ETHER blockchain - MyEtherWallet is your way to access the blockchain and your ledger nano stores your private key to access your crypto through MyEtherWallet .


Confused yet lol . Dont be . Whatever wallet your using is where the crypto is and the ledger stores your private keys to access it .
This post was edited on 12/20/18 at 12:04 pm
Posted by Bustedsack
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 12/20/18 at 4:11 pm to
What's with the sudden surge? Was contemplating buying some bitcoin cash at $80, but didn't. Now it's skyrocketing.
Posted by DreauxB2015
Member since Nov 2015
7726 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 5:02 pm to
No idea why . Best case a bull run but its been doing this all year just to crash back down to new lower lows . Unless your a genius day trader by all means get in but if you're a retard day trader lie me stay on the sideline and hope its a bull run . Besides Bitcoin Im down like 80% . So I watch these up and downs like .


Posted by Bullfrog
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Posted on 12/24/18 at 4:06 am to
Maybe the big players have accumulated everything they could get their hands on from private sources and now are forced to buy on the exchanges.

Volume is a bit light on this price run. Looking to short an overdue pullback, sometime today.

Next 45 days could be something else. Probably will have a nice short and then another big run in a week.

Repeat a few more times and we could zoom last $10k.
This post was edited on 12/24/18 at 7:42 am
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
35856 posts
Posted on 12/24/18 at 11:45 am to
Pissed I didn’t get ETH in the 80s on Monday. Hopefully it retraces back to around a 100 and then zoom zoom to the moon.
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