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re: Official CryptoTalk Thread
Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:42 pm to 98eagle
Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:42 pm to 98eagle
Every cycle is dominated by a theme. 2017 was “utility coins”
2021 was defi and NFTs
2025 ETFs and CeFi?
LINK
2021 was defi and NFTs
2025 ETFs and CeFi?
LINK
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Encouraged by the SEC’s growing openness to crypto and armed with improved market surveillance structures, asset managers filed for a wave of altcoin ETFs. These proposals aim to bring exposure to high-demand tokens such as Litecoin, XRP, Solana, Dogecoin, Cardano, and more.
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Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:54 pm to Hateradedrink
Interesting article. The number of different ETFs is staggering. Also, I am surprised that GBTC is still the 3rd largest ETF after IBIT and FBTC.
Pardon my ignorance, but what is CeFi? Is that the banking system getting involved more?
Pardon my ignorance, but what is CeFi? Is that the banking system getting involved more?
Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:56 pm to 98eagle
Yeah that’s what I mean. Tokens involved with traditional banking and finance one way or the other. Maybe more apt to use “TradFi” instead of CeFi
Posted on 7/12/25 at 7:00 pm to BottomlandBrew
quote:I don’t doubt it at all.
The same can be said for any of the top 3 or 4 major alts.
Does InvestAnswers overstate the percentage of transactions that go through SOL?(I might not have used the right terminology there, but you know what I mean).
Posted on 7/12/25 at 7:07 pm to Hateradedrink
It's really crazy how much crypto has changed since 2016. I always thought Bitcoin and Alt Coins would pretty much remain totally decentralized and only traded directly on exchanges. GBTC was the only other different way to invest indirectly and it was over the counter.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 8:52 pm to 98eagle
Yeah, I agree.
Seems like yesterday everyone was apeing into ICX and NEO as Korean and Chinese ETH.
Lol.
Seems like yesterday everyone was apeing into ICX and NEO as Korean and Chinese ETH.
Lol.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 9:03 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:
Does InvestAnswers overstate the percentage of transactions that go through SOL?
Maybe. There's some debate as to the true transaction volume on the Solana network. There have been allegations that up to 70% of the reported transactions are essentially "fake" or meaningless. I have my own non-techie opinion, but you do your own research and come up with your own conclusions.
And just so you know my bias for transparency, I'm a big Ethereum bull. I also own a bunch of Sol. I haven't bought any Sol in a couple of years, but I continue to buy Ether and bitcoin. Sol is my "quick" money, and Ether and bitcoin are longer term investments for me.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 10:11 pm to Hateradedrink
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utility... defi... etf.. cefi...
Maybe 2025 is also where one of these is all of these?
This post was edited on 7/12/25 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 7/12/25 at 10:47 pm to Hateradedrink
quote:I bought NEO before it was NEO. It was called Antshares when I bought it and later was renamed NEO. I made a lot of money on it.
Seems like yesterday everyone was apeing into ICX and NEO as Korean and Chinese ETH.
Posted on 7/13/25 at 12:27 am to BottomlandBrew
Bro, ethereum and Solana won’t be here in 100 years. Retail is not coming to pump your bags. Snap out of it bro.
- I Love Bama
- I Love Bama
This post was edited on 7/13/25 at 12:31 am
Posted on 7/13/25 at 6:14 am to 98eagle
Yeah. NEO made some people a lot of money.
Then it just sort of fell off the face of the planet.
Then it just sort of fell off the face of the planet.
Posted on 7/13/25 at 6:49 am to Hateradedrink
LINK
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James Wynn, a crypto trader known for his high-leverage crypto bets, appears to have deactivated his X social media account, following nine-digit losses.
Wynn’s X handle “JamesWynnReal” now routes to a page that says “This account doesn’t exist. Try searching for another.” The trader’s wallets show a combined balance of just $10,176, according to balances displayed by Arkham Intelligence and Hypurrscan.
Cointelegraph reached out to Wynn for comment but was unable to get in touch with the trader. Before deleting the X account, Wynn changed his profile bio to one word: “broke.”
Posted on 7/13/25 at 7:57 am to Hateradedrink
That was perhaps the most degenerate degen I've seen in this cycle
Posted on 7/13/25 at 9:19 am to Hateradedrink
Let’s all remember that Nvidia’s market cap is still larger than the entire crypto space. I am not saying if it should or shouldn’t be, just putting things in perspective.
Posted on 7/13/25 at 9:46 am to 98eagle
No. My business has taken off. Plus I don’t know what I would do in retirement. I’m 42 with no wife and kids.
I would be bored out of my mind.
I would be bored out of my mind.
Posted on 7/13/25 at 9:48 am to Hateradedrink
That’s interesting. Good data. So is the thought process that money will rotate out of the bitcoin etf into alt coin ETFs?
Posted on 7/13/25 at 9:50 am to Chuckiee
quote:
Bro, ethereum and Solana won’t be here in 100 years. Retail is not coming to pump your bags. Snap out of it bro. - I Love Bama
I stand by this.
Btw- I hope you guys don’t mistake my alt coin skepticism for me rooting against you. I want everyone to make it.
Posted on 7/13/25 at 10:58 am to I Love Bama
quote:Same here. We all have our different ideas and strategies. I like hearing what others are thinking and doing, even though I am pretty set in my strategy as a hybrid Bitcoin holder/incremental volatility trader basing my trades solely on Bitcoin's price.
I want everyone to make it.
This post was edited on 7/13/25 at 11:40 am
Posted on 7/13/25 at 12:39 pm to I Love Bama
There is some truth to what you say.
The days of throwing a dart and 30x’ing are likely done.
While I believe there is money to be made outside of bitcoin, people who do nothing but buy BTC will end up just fine. It just depends on your risk tolerance and how much time you’re willing to dedicate to this.
The days of throwing a dart and 30x’ing are likely done.
While I believe there is money to be made outside of bitcoin, people who do nothing but buy BTC will end up just fine. It just depends on your risk tolerance and how much time you’re willing to dedicate to this.
Posted on 7/13/25 at 12:42 pm to I Love Bama
Maybe, or that money will be split.
I think “alt season” here is waiting on a catalyst. That is the main difference between BTC and alts.
Alts have to have a catalyst to start the reaction. BTC just…does its thing.
I don’t know if anyone can point to what the catalyst is this season, or if we’ve even seen it yet. Kind of a question of have the previous catalysts been “real”, or was everyone just looking for a reason and they found one? If the catalysts weren’t “real”, are we just waiting for some group of people to decide upon one and then cause the FOMO?
I think “alt season” here is waiting on a catalyst. That is the main difference between BTC and alts.
Alts have to have a catalyst to start the reaction. BTC just…does its thing.
I don’t know if anyone can point to what the catalyst is this season, or if we’ve even seen it yet. Kind of a question of have the previous catalysts been “real”, or was everyone just looking for a reason and they found one? If the catalysts weren’t “real”, are we just waiting for some group of people to decide upon one and then cause the FOMO?
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