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Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:34 pm to tenderfoot tigah
Bottom of the descending channel we are in is around 56k, so this swing could fall that far and not invalidate any set up.
Posted on 8/1/24 at 4:26 pm to Hateradedrink
Yeah, we're not in too bad of a spot. Hit a bottom by mid/late August, then start the climb back up.
Posted on 8/1/24 at 5:03 pm to BottomlandBrew
That was a pretty strong rebound off 62.5. It’s actually gonna close green after that dip.
We can drop to 56k and be fine, but I’m not sure we will.
We can drop to 56k and be fine, but I’m not sure we will.
Posted on 8/1/24 at 6:52 pm to tenderfoot tigah
Not worth going back, I wasn't as active chat wise. Mainly just read what others posted and it was such a turn off when people went to the HEX Cult. You couldn't say anything remotely negative about it without being attacked and discussions about any other crypto turned into HEX within three comments it seemed.
Posted on 8/1/24 at 7:17 pm to Hateradedrink
We’ll look back and wish we had bought more at these levels.
I don’t think you buy, hold and forget, but BTC, which is in its early stages, is as close to buy, hold and forget as I’ve seen in my lifetime.
I don’t think you buy, hold and forget, but BTC, which is in its early stages, is as close to buy, hold and forget as I’ve seen in my lifetime.
Posted on 8/2/24 at 2:23 pm to Iowa Golfer
BTC has some inside liquidity down to 60k. I think market makers want it. I think we go lower then bounce hard.
What do yall think?
What do yall think?
Posted on 8/2/24 at 2:36 pm to HottyToddy7
Range could go down to 55 right now. I was skeptical but there are some strong macro forces at play. A trip below 60 wouldn’t surprise me.
August is also historically a slow month for btc. I read somewhere the most it’s gone up in August is like 2% all the way back to 2013.
So, I wouldn’t be in a rush to buy a bunch within the next couple weeks.
August is also historically a slow month for btc. I read somewhere the most it’s gone up in August is like 2% all the way back to 2013.
So, I wouldn’t be in a rush to buy a bunch within the next couple weeks.
Posted on 8/2/24 at 9:47 pm to Hateradedrink
60,200. Liquidity has been taken. I expect next week to be green.
Posted on 8/3/24 at 7:49 am to HottyToddy7
It’s going to depend on the Israel/Iran stuff.
There may be another leg down if that goes hot.
There may be another leg down if that goes hot.
Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:49 am to QboveTopSecret
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98eagle
I've been watching you crush this zone for the last few months and I want to trade it this time.
Do you think the leverage ETF or microstrategy options is the better risk/reward play.
I'm not going to do much. maybe 5k-10k
Posted on 8/3/24 at 1:24 pm to I Love Bama
I'm new (and late) to trying to understand crypto, but I've been listening to a lot of podcasts and YT videos over the past week to try to understand it. I'm becoming more excited about it the more I learn, but I have two questions holding me back. I'm sure these are pretty basic ideas that have been discussed for years now so I didn't want to create a new thread.
1. Can anyone explain what happens when all BTC is mined? Will transaction fees become unsustainable? I watched a couple YT videos on this topic but the guys just dance around the question and essentially say we'll worry about it later.
2. There seems to be a catch-22 regarding BTC ever being regularly exchanged as a currency for goods and services. It will only be exchanged for g&s when the value of BTC is no longer increasing. Without being able to inflate bitcoin, I cannot see people ever using it as a means of exchange. If it ever were to stabilize and people were to start exchanging it for goods and services that would likely lead to the value of BTC increasing again, which would cause people to return to hoarding it.
1. Can anyone explain what happens when all BTC is mined? Will transaction fees become unsustainable? I watched a couple YT videos on this topic but the guys just dance around the question and essentially say we'll worry about it later.
2. There seems to be a catch-22 regarding BTC ever being regularly exchanged as a currency for goods and services. It will only be exchanged for g&s when the value of BTC is no longer increasing. Without being able to inflate bitcoin, I cannot see people ever using it as a means of exchange. If it ever were to stabilize and people were to start exchanging it for goods and services that would likely lead to the value of BTC increasing again, which would cause people to return to hoarding it.
Posted on 8/3/24 at 2:49 pm to Yeti_Chaser
2 is a philosophical question. I consider btc a means of storing and moving value without asking for permission to do so.
1, I think miners will be paid via transaction fees, but I’m admittedly not well-read on this. I’m not sure how fees will be set.
1, I think miners will be paid via transaction fees, but I’m admittedly not well-read on this. I’m not sure how fees will be set.
Posted on 8/3/24 at 3:02 pm to Yeti_Chaser
I don’t think anyone thinks BTC will be used to pay for goods or services. Other cryptocurrencies could possibly be in the future. The BTC technology just doesn’t allow it to be feasible. Is that what you are asking? Or are you asking what gives BTC its value?
Posted on 8/3/24 at 3:17 pm to HottyToddy7
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Or are you asking what gives BTC its value?
I assume the argument is that the value of BTC is that its a store of wealth that the central banks cannot control. I think I agree with that principle. But if it can't be used to pay for g&s because it can't be inflated, then is giving someone authority to alter the value of currency actually necessary? This shite is breaking my brain
Posted on 8/3/24 at 3:37 pm to Yeti_Chaser
I think I get what you’re saying.
You’re saying that the thing that gives BTC its value also means you kind of need someone to make sure a currency stays inflationary and does not deflate.
You are correct in this- the fed is scared shitless of deflation and it should be. Our economy is debt-based, and deflation would crush it. Debt-based economies have to have some inflation.
New, cheaper debt pays for older, more expensive debt.
Even if our economy wasn’t debt-based, simple game theory would demand any currency that does not inflate would be hoarded and only used when absolutely necessary. Not a great recipe for economic development.
You’re saying that the thing that gives BTC its value also means you kind of need someone to make sure a currency stays inflationary and does not deflate.
You are correct in this- the fed is scared shitless of deflation and it should be. Our economy is debt-based, and deflation would crush it. Debt-based economies have to have some inflation.
New, cheaper debt pays for older, more expensive debt.
Even if our economy wasn’t debt-based, simple game theory would demand any currency that does not inflate would be hoarded and only used when absolutely necessary. Not a great recipe for economic development.
Posted on 8/3/24 at 4:04 pm to Hateradedrink
BTC at this point is like art in the sense its value is that people assume it will continue to rise. The 4 year cycle gives people this confidence. I don’t think anyone wants to attempt to use is as an everyday currency. The gas fees and time it takes makes it not feasible.
But like I said, other blockchains could evolve and fill that role. I don’t necessarily want that to happen but it wouldn’t be BTC.
But like I said, other blockchains could evolve and fill that role. I don’t necessarily want that to happen but it wouldn’t be BTC.
Posted on 8/3/24 at 4:07 pm to Hateradedrink
Thats exactly what I'm getting at. We would just go right into a depression, so the problem that bitcoin "solves" is actually a necessary evil and can only exist along side another global reserve currency that a central bank can control
This post was edited on 8/3/24 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 8/3/24 at 4:21 pm to Yeti_Chaser
BTC serves a role in a greater economic ecosystem.
It cannot exist by itself in the same sense that a stock, bond, or other note of value could not exist by itself.
If you self-custody BTC, you are essentially banking all the profit that would go to wealth managers, security personnel, custodians who mop the floor at the bank, etc etc etc.
That is where the value comes from- labor that otherwise would be outsourced.
It cannot exist by itself in the same sense that a stock, bond, or other note of value could not exist by itself.
If you self-custody BTC, you are essentially banking all the profit that would go to wealth managers, security personnel, custodians who mop the floor at the bank, etc etc etc.
That is where the value comes from- labor that otherwise would be outsourced.
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