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re: Official CryptoTalk Thread
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:17 am to TigerTatorTots
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:17 am to TigerTatorTots
Most people are well past this, but I was cleaning up my Discord and Telegram channels and saw this Medium adrticle posted in the Iron Finance Telegram.. It's fascinating to me.
LINK
Turns out it wasn't really a "bank run" like the IF team tried to claim. While it still doesn't look like they were necessarily malicious actors or rug pulling, they are culpable for negligence at the very least.
TL;DR - Someone did a frick ton of homework, digging through IRON and TITAN transactions, found someone buying & redeeming millions of IRON at a time, selling the TITAN, and doing it over again. This was possible because the TWAP of the oracle the IF team was using was set to 10 minutes, so there was a ton of time for price reflections to be inaccurate when IRON dipped below $1. When they started dumping hard, IRON stayed below $1 and allowed for some smart individual to cause it all to continuously crash while profiting to the tune of hundreds of millions.
Where the Iron Finance team is culpable is they were warned by the guy doing the digging that someone was doing this, they implemented some potential fixes and things stabilized (this was the crash from ~$64 to ~$30), but for some unknown reason they reversed the changes and the activity resumed. Certainly smells fishy. To make it even more fishy, the person moving millions transferred it through multiple intermediary wallets before getting to its final destination. There's no direct evidence that the team did this, but it's not a good look.
What's most crazy to me is that this could've been done for small amounts for.. well, forever, and probably wouldn't have been caught, or would've taken forever. Some whale saw an opportunity to immediately walk away with hundreds of millions and took it, or the dev team fricked everyone.
LINK
Turns out it wasn't really a "bank run" like the IF team tried to claim. While it still doesn't look like they were necessarily malicious actors or rug pulling, they are culpable for negligence at the very least.
TL;DR - Someone did a frick ton of homework, digging through IRON and TITAN transactions, found someone buying & redeeming millions of IRON at a time, selling the TITAN, and doing it over again. This was possible because the TWAP of the oracle the IF team was using was set to 10 minutes, so there was a ton of time for price reflections to be inaccurate when IRON dipped below $1. When they started dumping hard, IRON stayed below $1 and allowed for some smart individual to cause it all to continuously crash while profiting to the tune of hundreds of millions.
Where the Iron Finance team is culpable is they were warned by the guy doing the digging that someone was doing this, they implemented some potential fixes and things stabilized (this was the crash from ~$64 to ~$30), but for some unknown reason they reversed the changes and the activity resumed. Certainly smells fishy. To make it even more fishy, the person moving millions transferred it through multiple intermediary wallets before getting to its final destination. There's no direct evidence that the team did this, but it's not a good look.
What's most crazy to me is that this could've been done for small amounts for.. well, forever, and probably wouldn't have been caught, or would've taken forever. Some whale saw an opportunity to immediately walk away with hundreds of millions and took it, or the dev team fricked everyone.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:29 am to Hulkklogan
damn. glad you got out when you did
these insane yields are not going to be around forever so hopefully you found another pool
these insane yields are not going to be around forever so hopefully you found another pool
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:30 am to TigerTatorTots
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Ross
Ross hitting the nail on the head there with his explanation
are the Link Marines still claiming the market crashed because of LINK?
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:32 am to rocket31
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are the Link Marines still claiming the market crashed because of LINK?
Sergey banged the Chinese presidents wife so he banned crypto mining
This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 9:34 am
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:34 am to Ron Cheramie
150m 24h volume for BTC just in binance.us and the 1h candlesticks are essentially flat for the last 14 hours.
What the frick is going on.
What the frick is going on.
This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 9:36 am
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:36 am to rocket31
Using Augury.Finance right now
LINK
Not as crazy as Iron Finance was, but still damn good. Just farming the speculative token, seeing if it'll get me any gains. Getting ~3 OMEN tokens/day right now, haven't sold any off yet. It's as much a ponzi as any other degen yield farm, but looks nicer
And it's mostly single-coin farms, so don't have to worry about IL even on BTC or ETH.
LINK
Not as crazy as Iron Finance was, but still damn good. Just farming the speculative token, seeing if it'll get me any gains. Getting ~3 OMEN tokens/day right now, haven't sold any off yet. It's as much a ponzi as any other degen yield farm, but looks nicer
This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 9:40 am
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:54 am to Hulkklogan
I'll just stick to pancake. I know binance isn't going to exam scam everyone
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:12 am to rocket31
Yeah, Polygon is still kind of the wild west, even by crypto standards. Full of scams and rug pulls. A new Goose Finance fork degen yield farm pops up about every day, massive pump and dump every time, and they're all named PolySomething.
Look at the RugDoc calendar for June
There are safer plays, like using aave or curve, or even Quickswap LPs and staking.
Look at the RugDoc calendar for June
There are safer plays, like using aave or curve, or even Quickswap LPs and staking.
This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 10:25 am
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:13 am to Tiguar
Spooked Chinese miners and investors have finished unloading.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:27 am to Hulkklogan
There is an interesting defi project on Polygon called for.tube. It's basically a direct competitor to Aave, but native to Polygon.
LINK
Not really sure why they'd want to compete with Aave. tbh, but the APR there is better than Aave, and there's still some MATIC liquidity mining going on.
LINK
Not really sure why they'd want to compete with Aave. tbh, but the APR there is better than Aave, and there's still some MATIC liquidity mining going on.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:31 am to Ross
quote:
by Ross
Thanks for that. Cheers
Posted on 6/23/21 at 2:31 pm to Hulkklogan
John McAfee killed himself today, allegedly
Posted on 6/23/21 at 2:37 pm to Ross
quote:
John McAfee killed himself today, allegedly
allegedly
Posted on 6/23/21 at 2:44 pm to Ross
I wonder if he upheld his end of the bet and finally ate his dick before offing himself?
Posted on 6/23/21 at 6:46 pm to rocket31
quote:
I'll just stick to pancake. I know binance isn't going to exam scam everyone
Same. Im in a few 200%+ farms.
You know its bad when I settle for 200% APR....
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:12 pm to JayDeerTay84
quote:
Stakehound, the second biggest ETH2 staking pool (after Lido) lost their users’ private keys
https://twitter.com/jamesspediacci/status/1407465311180255236?s=21
Ouch!
This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:16 pm to boomtown143
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allegedly
I think he got Epstein'd tbh
but this isn't the thread for that kind of talk I suppose, but he was relevant in the crypto space for better or worse and thought I'd at least bring up his passing
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