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Posted on 5/13/21 at 8:38 pm to
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 8:38 pm to
Yea, but hex and pulse are just for swaps and yield farming. You can do that already on Binance for low fees.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 8:44 pm to
FIFY



Posted by Douglas Quaid
Mars
Member since Mar 2010
4120 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:02 pm to
Had to laugh when he shilled Doge again after the shite storm he caused today.

And I see after all of that Doge is now the #4 ranked crypto on CMC.

If the market wasn't so fricking immature this could have been a blip. Ah well, The Elon giveth and the Elon taketh away.
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 9:18 pm
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6535 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

There’s a lot to unpack from the last 24 hours

I’m still digesting and trying not to make any rash decisions



I think musk tweets and the pipeline ransom are overblown FUD, the market being volatile over-reacted as it does. hacking ransoms are nothing new. a quick google shows plenty of much larger crypto hacking ransom schemes without shattering the market. some crypto ransom schemes in multibillion dollar range of damages.

its probably as simple as musk influencing prices and speculation as he has done with TSLA and more recently DOGE. miners are still going to be mining btc regardless of energy issues. there is nothing to see, except speculation of POS shitcoins gaining more favorable outlook for shilling by whatever percent of crypto holders are concerned about energy.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:20 pm to
So the more I try to understand this “pulse” fork the more I just don’t see how it’s going to work. Also it brought me back to OffChains lab and Arbitrum which is about two weeks away and will basically solve Eth scalability and fee issues
Posted by BaddestAndvari
That Overweight Racist State
Member since Mar 2011
18666 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:24 pm to
quote:

CE Tiger


I sent my crazy crypto cousin chasing after Pulse after it was pumped in this thread a few times. He came back with the same response, glad to see a second opinion on it
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:37 pm to
The fallout from the Elon tweet was an eye opener. $400B shaved off the market cap in just a few minutes. I just don’t like the 24/7 nature of this asset class and always having to be on the lookout for a crash. Struggle to see how corporations would use bitcoin as a cash substitute on their balance sheet given the recent volatility and now the ESG focus based on Elon’s stupid tweet.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:40 pm to
He mentioned Arbitrum? I think this is really getting overlooked right now . It basically will take a lot control out of the Eth miners and really allow for a fair blockchain.

Posted by maclauer
Member since Nov 2011
4765 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:48 pm to
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Struggle to see how corporations would use bitcoin as a cash substitute on their balance sheet given the recent volatility and now the ESG focus based on Elon’s stupid tweet.



This is where I’m struggling. Perception is reality in 2021 with corporations wanting to be woke and green. Having the first and only major corporate hodler denounce its energy usage will likely dissuade others from engaging.

Now we’re just back to Gigachad Saylor again
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9956 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:48 pm to
What do you mean by fair?
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41893 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:52 pm to
There’s a lot of talk that Eth developers and miners are front running these decentralized exchanges because they can see the contract ahead of time.

This explains it better than I can

quote:

A miner has control of what order transactions go into in a block, and can also insert their own transactions. So say a miner receives a buy order for 1 million LINK, that is going to push the price of LINK from $40 to $50. The miner can put their own LINK buy order in ahead of the transaction, buying at $40, then the big transaction goes through, then the miner puts another transaction selling the same amount for $50. The miner gets free money, the person putting the big buy order in loses out because instead of getting at $40 they have to buy after the miner and get a worse buy in price. And this all happens within the same block so there is no way the miner loses. FSS, Fair Sequencing Services is a way to get oracle networks to guarantee that transactions in a block execute in the exact order that they were made. No more frontrunning, or "sandwich transacting" (where the miner puts the big order in a "sandwich" of their own orders). MEV is literally just middleman profiteering, it's exactly what crypto was made to remove, and watching the ETH inner circle go berserk about Ari calling it out is a sign of how far they have fallen.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9956 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:56 pm to
Interesting. I knew of MEV but seeing the profits real time this makes sense. I am wondering now that even with 1559 that MEV will keep mining fees high.
Posted by down time
space
Member since Oct 2013
1914 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:15 pm to
I'm struggling to see how these corporations stay in business in the us much longer.

when the us gov/fed runs us off the rails btc will be the one and it will be sky high.
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 10:18 pm
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:38 pm to
yea institutional adoption might not become a reality in the near future. perhaps it will be just asset to keep secret or else youll risk being cancelled by the woke environmental mob

so I doubt Facebook will add publicly as an example, but guys like Zuckerberg who name their goats "bitcoin" clearly are invested privately and maybe private adoption is better anyways
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 10:41 pm
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13953 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:40 pm to
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yea institutional adoption might not be a reality in the near future but I guess we never know


But without large scale institutional adoption, we're much more likely to see another severe crypto winter. Feels like for those not already invested in crypto, the better play may be to buy in during the '22-'23 winter for the next bull run with the '24 halving cycle.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:42 pm to
I do mostly agree with you

at this point, I'm thinking some time during the summer it could get ugly again.
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 10:43 pm
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 10:50 pm to
Elon saying “don’t panic”

This dude is playing games. I’m thinking your theory of green mining sponsored by Tesla may not be the craziest possibility here.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
39873 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 12:32 am to
Over 19k BTCs were sent to exchanges just before Elon’s tweet yesterday...


Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9956 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 5:29 am to
We don’t need regulation. As much as it sucks, let the market figure itself out. This is what we signed up for.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16190 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 5:52 am to
George's theory, who thinks everyone is George, believes it's because Tesla is chasing Gov green money worth billions. Gov may also see btc as a China problem which is 1 reason I switched from btc to eth, as I've heard this more and more over last month.
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