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re: Nebius - NBIS - AI Infrastructure Company

Posted on 10/27/25 at 7:56 am to
Posted by Jax-Tiger
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Posted on 10/27/25 at 7:56 am to
I meant to post this question last week when we were discussing NBIS's core business, and that they are not the same as CRWV - they are not trying to build their core business around renting GPUs.

So what does their "core client" look like? I'm assuming that they need clients that are big enough to spend money, but still need the system/environment support to meet their needs - and they have been talking about security, integration, HIPAA, different levels of SOX compliance, and local governance.

To make another assumption, does that mean their client base is going to be health care providers and insurance companies who can jump into an AI develpment system that is already secure and HIPAA compliant. They will work with IT consulting firms who can develop client software in an environment that is already SOX compliant. They will provide a secure environment with the tools to develop AI systems for manufacturing companies of any size. They will be going after banks and accounting firms because their security and compliance with local/regional regulations is already baked into the system.

Does that cover it? They don't necessarily need Meta, Oracle, Microsoft, Alphabet, Amazon, etc, to buy their services. They are trying to position themselves to get the rest of the AI market by developing data centers that are more user friendly and secure than anything else out there.


tldr: NBIS is looking to clients like BoA, Accenture, GM, UNH, etc, instead of the hyperscalers, by providing AI environments that are more user friendly for these companies. Hyperscalers are just the icing on the cake.
This post was edited on 10/27/25 at 8:01 am
Posted by IT_Dawg
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Posted on 10/27/25 at 8:07 am to
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Does that cover it? They don't necessarily need Meta, Oracle, Microsoft, Alphabet, Amazon, etc, to buy their services. They are trying to position themselves to get the rest of the AI market by developing data centers that are more user friendly and secure than anything else out there.


Correct, and while the big revenue from a hyperscaler is great, it comes at a cost, as the larger deals typically have much smaller margins, especially if the hyperscaler is going to resell that space under their own offering.

Microsoft deal was also good, because it will be used for MS internal teams, not resold. This is typically better margins and a much better use case to share with potential clients.

The other big difference maker, is the products and services they offer outside of just infrastructure. This allows them to be much more scalable, enticing to smaller clients, more efficient with each chip, less ramp up time and more productive from the same footprint.

This post was edited on 10/27/25 at 8:08 am
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
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Posted on 10/27/25 at 8:17 am to
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
26979 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 8:17 am to
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Correct, and while the big revenue from a hyperscaler is great, it comes at a cost, as the larger deals typically have much smaller margins, especially if the hyperscaler is going to resell that space under their own offering.



I just thought it was a good point to bring up, as we should not get caught up in the giant hyperscaler contracts. Just because they haven't inked a few more deals with those guys doesn't mean they aren't killing it.

They are building their business by differentiating themselves from companies who are just leasing bare metal. That means clients that are not pure AI, but need AI to make their core businesses better.

Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 10/27/25 at 8:21 am to
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I just thought it was a good point to bring up, as we should not get caught up in the giant hyperscaler contracts. Just because they haven't inked a few more deals with those guys doesn't mean they aren't killing it.

I try not to use this buzz word, but... 100%

I've been trying to get to the bottom of this over the last week or so the best I can:
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This post was edited on 10/27/25 at 8:22 am
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 10/27/25 at 8:23 am to
Good stuff.

All of those companies are using AI, but don't have the expertise/money to develop AI models on their own.

Nebius gives them a sandbox that works on day one.
Posted by YungBuck
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 10/27/25 at 8:40 am to
Fighting 123 currently

Edit: Just blew through it
This post was edited on 10/27/25 at 8:43 am
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
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23513 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 8:45 am to
You wealthy MF'er!!
Show me those 10/31s
Posted by YungBuck
Mandeville
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Posted on 10/27/25 at 8:47 am to
Up 75% on the 10/31s I bought, can’t imagine IT’s day today
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
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23513 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 8:49 am to
They are busting the doors down on NBI$.
Posted by sonoma8
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 10/27/25 at 8:50 am to
You still confident on $500 PT in the next 2-3yrs?
Posted by HogPharmer
Member since Jun 2022
3431 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 8:53 am to
I sold my call I rolled last Friday and was up 86%. Good recoupment on my initial 140c I had purchased on 10/10 and a good lesson learned on rolling calls!
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26341 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 8:56 am to
Sold 125/200 in the 3.50-$4.05 range when price was $124. Waiting for a pullback to reload for the afternoon run to $127

Hoping to get back in the $120.50-$121 price range.
This post was edited on 10/27/25 at 8:58 am
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
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Posted on 10/27/25 at 8:59 am to
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You still confident on $500 PT in the next 2-3yrs?

Have you seen my valuation posts?! YES
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23513 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 9:00 am to
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You still confident on $500 PT in the next 2-3yrs?

Recent discussion: Posted by bayoubengals88 on 10/25/25 at 12:07 pm to LChama
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/27/25 at 9:06 am to
Jumped right over my very generous offer in 11/21 140c.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26341 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 9:18 am to
Okay, hopped back in at $2.55 when price hit $121.25 now at 240 contracts for 10/31 $130c
This post was edited on 10/27/25 at 9:21 am
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26341 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 9:21 am to
quote:

Jumped right over my very generous offer in 11/21 140c.


Should have gotten filled on this dip to $121

Think she is filling some daily gaps from all that volume, so we could see some slippage for a bit here, but I’m still playing for $125+ to end the day
This post was edited on 10/27/25 at 9:29 am
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