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Minimum Pay Increase you'd accept to move to a competitor

Posted on 2/14/18 at 10:46 am
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16855 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 10:46 am
What is the minimum % increase you'd accept to perform the same job at a competitor?

Things seem to be heating up in my industry. I did leverage a job offer last year for a 27% raise. Another competitor is recruiting me (and I suspect a couple of my colleagues as well), and I've got a prelim offer for about 10% more.

Position is exactly the same as I currently have, but I will be starting with a pretty interesting client.
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 11:01 am
Posted by Clint Torres
Member since Oct 2011
2659 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 10:57 am to
How miserable are you in your current job?
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
39978 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:00 am to
Might want to check to make sure you don't have a non compete clause.
Posted by Sterling Archer
Austin
Member since Aug 2012
7293 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:00 am to
Assuming all other things equal (commute, culture, etc.), at least 10% probably
Posted by Clint Torres
Member since Oct 2011
2659 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:01 am to
10% is a decent raise at $200k; not so much at $30k
Posted by Civildawg
Member since May 2012
8549 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:02 am to
20% unless maybe the competitor offers more vacation or better benefits.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16855 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:03 am to
quote:

How miserable are you in your current job?



Not particularly miserable at all.

I'm just not entirely sure I trust my current employer to offer annual bonuses or performance related raises without leveraging other job offers.

I know that I'm eventually going to want an exit strategy to take a position that is less stressful and with less travel in 3-4 years. This new offer definitely isn't that position.
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 11:05 am
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16855 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:04 am to
quote:

20% unless maybe the competitor offers more vacation or better benefits.



They match about 3% more for 401K than my current employer.
Posted by Moots
Gonzales, LA
Member since Nov 2007
978 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:21 am to
quote:

10% is a decent raise at $200k; not so much at $30k


10% is 10%...that's the way percentages work...it's all relative.

There's no logical reason why a $3,000 raise for a guy making $30,000 isn't every bit as valuable as $20,000 to a guy making $200,000.
Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
107724 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:22 am to
I'd argue the 3k raise for the 30k guy is WAY more valuable actually.
Posted by Moots
Gonzales, LA
Member since Nov 2007
978 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:27 am to
quote:

I'd argue the 3k raise for the 30k guy is WAY more valuable actually


I didn't even go there...but if there's an argument to be made, I think logic supports your point.

The higher you go, it's less about meeting essential needs and more just about discretionary wants.
Posted by Spirit of Dunson
Member since Mar 2007
23111 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

The higher you go, it's less about meeting essential needs and more just about discretionary wants.
this. I can't name a number for me to leave my job. I would only leave for a better scope of responsibility, or a major improvement in work life balance.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50337 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

Things seem to be heating up in my industry


What industry/type of work.

I can tell you when things cool down they look to fire the new guy who jumps around and has a salary that is way too high.

IMO if you are a career white collar professional, your 20's and 30's should be about getting the best experience you can and then look to pay off in your 40's and 50's. An extra 20-40k here or there is nothing compared to being able to land a C-suite job and pulling down 7 figures later.

IF you are an hourly employee, sure get paid while you can and save up if its cyclical.
Posted by LSUTOM07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
765 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

your 20's and 30's should be about getting the best experience you can and then look to pay off in your 40's and 50's.


Who says you can't do both?
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53151 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:32 pm to
How many people are realistically making it to 7 figure jobs? Your advice is usually spot on, but here I think you’re off the mark.

I think there’s value in staying in a role maybe a couple years longer than you’d like if it sets you up, but get your experience and get paid doing it.
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:46 pm to
Given that I'm relatively happy, 50% increase in total compensation.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20396 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

. An extra 20-40k here or there is nothing compared to being able to land a C-suite job and pulling down 7 figures later.



Cause this applies to about 1% of the population at best...
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24124 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 1:35 pm to
I’ve got non competes with he majority of my industry so it basically is impossible to go to a competitor.

It would take a lot though because I love my company, team, and role. It would like be more about title, visibility, and opportunity to learn/develop than money for me to switch companies.

If it was the same role at a competitor it’d take north of 30%.
Posted by Moots
Gonzales, LA
Member since Nov 2007
978 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

Cause this applies to about 1% of the population at best...


Yeah...1% is still overshooting the mark by quite a bit. Here's a Wall Street Journal interactive graphic that shows an annual income of $305,700 puts you in the top 1% of all Americans. You can further filter it from there to see where exactly you stand based on Sex, Race, Generation, and Education.

Actually pretty neat:
LINK
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53151 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 2:29 pm to
Well, I don’t feel AS poor now.
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