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Loan terms for new LLC
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:55 pm
From the responses here on previous threads, it seems a LLC is the right way to go for buying a camper lot in GI.
Just spoke with my credit union, they gave me a quote of 6.25% over 15 years. Is that a good rate? The same loan would cost 4.5% over 15 years if I were to take it out myself.
Any specific places I should look for better terms?
It's a brand new LLC, fwiw. Actually, it's not even formed yet.
Related question:
Any good names for a grand isle LLC???
Just spoke with my credit union, they gave me a quote of 6.25% over 15 years. Is that a good rate? The same loan would cost 4.5% over 15 years if I were to take it out myself.
Any specific places I should look for better terms?
It's a brand new LLC, fwiw. Actually, it's not even formed yet.
Related question:
Any good names for a grand isle LLC???
Posted on 1/17/18 at 7:45 am to DownSouthDave
Lightstream for lending purposes.
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 7:47 am
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:17 pm to DownSouthDave
Are you going to lease the lot? Are you trying to build a campground?
Posted on 1/17/18 at 3:25 pm to LSUFanHouston
I'm going to lease a spot. Not a campground, just 1 or 2 hookups.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 4:21 pm to DownSouthDave
Gotcha. LLCs yeah are going to have higher rates even for land loans.
I'd run a calc of the difference in annual cost given the higher rates, and compare that to the cost of an umbrella policy for liability protection if you put the land in your personal name.
I would not think this type of land lease would have a huge liability risk, but I'll let others opine on that.
I'd run a calc of the difference in annual cost given the higher rates, and compare that to the cost of an umbrella policy for liability protection if you put the land in your personal name.
I would not think this type of land lease would have a huge liability risk, but I'll let others opine on that.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 7:24 pm to DownSouthDave
I don't think the LLC is necessary
Posted on 1/17/18 at 8:01 pm to DownSouthDave
quote:
Any good names for a grand isle LLC???
Baw Investments LLC
Posted on 1/17/18 at 8:01 pm to TheOcean
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I don't think the LLC is necessary
Why not? I had another thread where it was recommended to cover personal assets.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 8:06 pm to DownSouthDave
You're just using the LLC for an undeveloped piece of land? Single member LLCs aren't protected liability wise in most states. If you have a multi member LLC, you will need to hire a good attorney to draft a solid operating agreement and keep up with the yearly formalities to have solid LLC asset protection. Plus you now have to pay a higher loan %. I don't really understand why unless you're worried about liability or it's a very expensive piece of property.
As Houston said, just get a solid umbrella policy. You can get a good umbrella policy for not that much.
As Houston said, just get a solid umbrella policy. You can get a good umbrella policy for not that much.
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 1/17/18 at 8:29 pm to TheOcean
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ou're just using the LLC for an undeveloped piece of land?
Pretty much. There will be a slab, power/water connections and that's about it.
Main concern is someone getting hurt out there and coming after me.
So am umbrella policy would basically afford the same protection as an LLC?
Posted on 1/17/18 at 8:41 pm to DownSouthDave
There is a huge thread on bigger pockets where many people weigh in on when the LLC is needed vs just getting an umbrella policy and the pros and cons of each. What I gathered from it is that LLC's are not always recommended or necessary for all situations. If you don't manage to keep the finances clearly separate for both then the LLC won't do you a bunch of good. I'll see if I can find the link and post it.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 8:48 pm to lsualum01
Posted on 1/18/18 at 4:50 am to lsualum01
Thanks for the link, seems that they have several people on both sides of the fence and the subject is about as clear as mud.
This is my take from the thread,
PROS
Protect your personal assets. But it was mentioned that personal residence and retirement can't be taken. Most of my money is in 401k and hell, the bank owns most of the house anyway.
I guess that's the only pro to forming one, right?
CONS:
Can't represent yourself in a lawsuit in some states
Hard to get funding
Additional cost of forming and maintaining it.
Won't offer protection if it's not operated correctly.
Seems like a lot of hassle I don't necessarily need to worry myself with. Especially for less than 10k a year in rent, max.
Thanks for the input.
This is my take from the thread,
PROS
Protect your personal assets. But it was mentioned that personal residence and retirement can't be taken. Most of my money is in 401k and hell, the bank owns most of the house anyway.
I guess that's the only pro to forming one, right?
CONS:
Can't represent yourself in a lawsuit in some states
Hard to get funding
Additional cost of forming and maintaining it.
Won't offer protection if it's not operated correctly.
Seems like a lot of hassle I don't necessarily need to worry myself with. Especially for less than 10k a year in rent, max.
Thanks for the input.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 1:30 pm to DownSouthDave
I think I weighed in on the other thread, but if you are renting the spot yourself and own it I would not worry about an LLC and get an Umbrella policy.
Honestly you should get an Umbrella Policy first, then worry about an LLC.
I don't think 6% is a bad rate, you'd be looking at usually 1-2% higher for commercial loans over residential.
How much money we talking about here? Over $50k? Is it possible you just do a personal line of credit or a HELOC?
Honestly you should get an Umbrella Policy first, then worry about an LLC.
I don't think 6% is a bad rate, you'd be looking at usually 1-2% higher for commercial loans over residential.
How much money we talking about here? Over $50k? Is it possible you just do a personal line of credit or a HELOC?
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