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Landlord Question - Evictions

Posted on 9/30/08 at 1:53 pm
Posted by Htown Tiger
Houston
Member since Sep 2005
2312 posts
Posted on 9/30/08 at 1:53 pm
I've let my rentor stay longer than you should without paying rent (over 2 months now), though we have been in communication and I was willing to work with him and he was always eventually paying me. But now its going on too much and too long.

My question is, if I decide to evict, am I entitled (like via a lawsuit even) to the overdue rent that he owes me? Or is it just lost income?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/30/08 at 1:59 pm to
do you have a lease?
Posted by Htown Tiger
Houston
Member since Sep 2005
2312 posts
Posted on 9/30/08 at 2:00 pm to
Yep, good for another 6 months.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422470 posts
Posted on 9/30/08 at 2:00 pm to
i'm no lawyer, but you should be entitled to all the rent due under that lease
Posted by 19thHole
Working on my TPS reports
Member since Dec 2007
4908 posts
Posted on 9/30/08 at 2:05 pm to
Well it depends, sometimes leases hold up in court and they can place a judgment lien on the defendant until they pay you the backed rent

in other cases, if you go through formal eviction proceedings you may be able to have the sheriff remove the tenant for non-payment but you may not be able to recover the lost rents

that's why as part of your NOI on investment property each year it is always prudent (and obviously necessary) to account a 5% or so piece of your budget for vacancy or collection losses

:notalawyer: FWIW
Posted by Htown Tiger
Houston
Member since Sep 2005
2312 posts
Posted on 9/30/08 at 2:17 pm to
Thanks 19th...would suck not to be able to recover it. Hopefully the lease will stand up in court if need be. Currently looking into a lawyer who specializes in eviction cases....hate to go that route, but may not have a choice.
Posted by 19thHole
Working on my TPS reports
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/30/08 at 2:20 pm to
Well usually allowing them two months is too long anway if you have any plans on collecting income from that unit...

If they failed to pay rent, all you have to do is post a notice that gives them 5 days to GTFO

If they don't, file an eviction suit and the courts will provide a notice to GTFO within 3 days

If they don't do that, the sheriff will kick 'em out and you can place new tenants in the unit

new tenants = rent
Posted by silstang23
Bossier City, LA
Member since Oct 2007
4957 posts
Posted on 9/30/08 at 2:25 pm to
There's always the concern of vandalism from evicted tenants. I know, it sucks.
This post was edited on 9/30/08 at 2:26 pm
Posted by 19thHole
Working on my TPS reports
Member since Dec 2007
4908 posts
Posted on 9/30/08 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

There's always the concern of vandalism from evicted tenants


that's what jail is for....and insurance
Posted by silstang23
Bossier City, LA
Member since Oct 2007
4957 posts
Posted on 9/30/08 at 3:05 pm to
Still shitty and a pain in the arse.
Posted by notslim99
City of Bossier City
Member since Feb 2005
4531 posts
Posted on 9/30/08 at 5:45 pm to
The eviction will get them out. The only recourse you have to recoup the back rent is to report them to the credit bureau. If you're lucky, they'll want to buy a car or something and come settle up with you.
Posted by howardhughes
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
509 posts
Posted on 9/30/08 at 9:54 pm to
Can't get blood out of a turnip. Evictions that the court grants that I have seen, usually have 24-48 hour notices.
Posted by notslim99
City of Bossier City
Member since Feb 2005
4531 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 9:12 am to
quote:

Evictions that the court grants that I have seen, usually have 24-48 hour notices.


The courts here require a 24-hour "move out" period, but the landlord can grant more time to the person being evicted. I usually give 48 hours. I've had a few instances where the renter bad mouthed me so badly in court, that I gave them only the mandatory 24 hours. If you evict, prepare for the renter to tell the judge what a bad landlord you are.
Posted by threesheets
Member since Oct 2007
423 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 11:43 am to
You're entitled to damages incurred by the tenant's breach (either the rent he owes you or the rent you missed out on by not being able to rent to someone else).
This post was edited on 10/1/08 at 12:50 pm
Posted by dinosaur
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
1091 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 12:05 pm to
You can sue for the back due rent but if you evict, you can't get the future rent that would have been due under the lease. Also, the eviction is a separate suit from the suit for unpaid rent. Unpaid rent is ususlly not worth chasing. Cost money to sue, and hard to collect. Evict him, get a better tenant.
Posted by Htown Tiger
Houston
Member since Sep 2005
2312 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

You can sue for the back due rent but if you evict, you can't get the future rent that would have been due under the lease. Also, the eviction is a separate suit from the suit for unpaid rent. Unpaid rent is ususlly not worth chasing. Cost money to sue, and hard to collect. Evict him, get a better tenant.


So I guess I cant roll any expenses I'd incur as the result of having to sue, into the lawsuit, no?
Posted by Herb
Amite LA
Member since Dec 2003
6528 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

My question is, if I decide to evict, am I entitled (like via a lawsuit even) to the overdue rent that he owes me? Or is it just lost income?
Entitled, yes. But, your immediate problem is eviction. Then you go to small claims court to collect your back rent. That is IF the renter obliges by relocation in the same jurisdiction. Basically, if he has a job, you collect. If he doesn't, you have trouble.
Posted by bendellee
Member since Aug 2006
2428 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 4:29 pm to
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quote:

So I guess I cant roll any expenses I'd incur as the result of having to sue, into the lawsuit, no?

In Louisiana you'd have a privilege on the non-exempt contents of the premises (and those removed less than 15 days prior to his eviction).
Maybe there's something similar to that in Texas and you can have some executory process counterpart that lets you sell it quick
Posted by Herb
Amite LA
Member since Dec 2003
6528 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

Well usually allowing them two months is too long anway if you have any plans on collecting income from that unit...

If they failed to pay rent, all you have to do is post a notice that gives them 5 days to GTFO

If they don't, file an eviction suit and the courts will provide a notice to GTFO within 3 days

If they don't do that, the sheriff will kick 'em out and you can place new tenants in the unit
All good advice.
Posted by Herb
Amite LA
Member since Dec 2003
6528 posts
Posted on 10/1/08 at 4:33 pm to
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Evictions that the court grants that I have seen, usually have 24-48 hour notices.
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The courts here require a 24-hour "move out" period, but the landlord can grant more time to the person being evicted. I usually give 48 hours. I've had a few instances where the renter bad mouthed me so badly in court, that I gave them only the mandatory 24 hours. If you evict, prepare for the renter to tell the judge what a bad landlord you are.
That is determined by local law. You may very well have a thiry day period from the date of the eviction notice. If that is statutory, your lease cannot override it.
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