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re: is the market going to crash, and should young people invest in gold and crypto?

Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:15 pm to
Posted by BuzzSaw 12
The Dark Side Of The Moon
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:15 pm to
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:27 pm to
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I got into crypto a little in 2018 and the more removed I am from that time, the more stupid it all seems, only people making real money (funny how we still judge it by the REAL currency right?) off bitcoin are the people who were there in the beginning.
Know how I know you know nothing about numbers?
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 10:33 pm to
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Im still of mind that bitcoin is a giant pyramid scheme aimed at dumb millennials.



yup
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 10:38 pm to
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Some major companies are accepting crypto payments nowadays.



Only as substitute for USD and at fluctuating exchange rates, no one is pricing in BTC and that is what keeps it from being a currency, it is simply a trade good for bartering.
Posted by RJSambola
Member since Jun 2012
407 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 4:35 am to
$HKR and $YAYO trade on the bitcoin exchange, it can't be worthless...
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:32 am to
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if the entire American economy crashes for an entire generation gold and crypto will be worthless.


Your take is important, and represents a lot of peoples mindsets, but it doesn’t have to be so binary. It’s not like we would jump to that point from this point. There will be many stops along the way. People don’t have to lose all their money, all together, all at the same time. There are things people can do to protect their assets, and hedge their risk. And there will always be people who will be making money as everyone loses money.

It is more likely that the economy will collapse than it won’t collapse. As history shows It has happened hundreds of times in the past. What are the chances that it happens in ones lifetime, and how great will that event be, is to be the determining factor on how you much you hedge against that risk.

It’s important in anything we do to think about worst case scenario’s and have a plan for them.
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
5054 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:59 am to
Yes, maybe, no.
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
5054 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 11:02 am to
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Dividend stocks are especially good at your age so try to grab them whenever possible. You can reinvest the dividends for extra growth.


I wish I could upvote this twice.

I also wish I had understood this when I was 25.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 12:24 pm to
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If the entire American economy crashes for an entire generation gold and crypto will be worthless.

If you’re legitimately worried that the entire American economic system is going to collapse go stock up on farming supplies and bullets




I remember something that an Econ professor told us when I was in college: "They say that he who has the gold makes the rules. But he who has the gun makes the rules for he who only has gold."

That kinda stuck with me.
Posted by Hussss
Helena, AL
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 12:27 pm to
JP Morgan said "Gold is money. Everything else is credit."
Posted by Shankopotomus
Social Distanced
Member since Feb 2009
21087 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 12:28 pm to
wonder if he would feel the same way now considering:

1. JP Morgan is part of the central bank / Fed Reserve cabal

2. We left the gold standard a loooong time ago, and loooong after he passed
Posted by Hussss
Helena, AL
Member since Oct 2016
7804 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 12:35 pm to
Central banks own most of the physical gold.

The working folks accept fake monopoly money that is loaned into existence, conjured from thin air in exchange for their labor and also pay 2 forms of taxation:

1) Interest on the national debt paid to the IRS for the Fed and Treasury.
2) Inflation
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134939 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 12:55 pm to
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JP Morgan said "Gold is money. Everything else is credit."
No, he didn't. That is a myth that has endured longer than what JPM actually said.

He was testifying before congress in 1912 and was asked, "But the basis of banking is credit, is it not?"

J.P. Morgan answered, "Not always. That is an evidence of the banking, but it is not the money itself. Money is gold, nothing else."

LINK
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
2153 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 1:56 pm to
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That is a myth that


Did he mean- gold is money, fiat is currency?
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