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Is a rate of 3.94% on a 30 year fixed, no points buy down, still possible?

Posted on 8/23/22 at 12:53 pm
Posted by Kujo
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Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 12:53 pm
We are looking to buy and a bank (actual bank, not broker) verbally stated a rate of 3.94% for 30 year fixed on a pre approval letter that just states “up to X amount”

I’m expecting of course when we find a place and go through with the actual mortgage, I’m going to hear, “that was in August, rates have gone up since then” or something similar….which will 100% make me not want to go with that bank. (I will not reward liars/sales pitches)

We do have great credit, it’s a large mortgage(California) where we are putting down 30%, have 2 other homes free & clear (assets), 18 months of liquid reserves, and a DTI below 30%, so I’d expect a lower rate, but wasn’t expecting a rate still in the 3’s.

I just wanted to “pre-affirm” the banker is lying.
Posted by lighter345
Member since Jan 2009
11864 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 1:21 pm to
Most Banks will do a 60-90 day “rate lock”. You just need to close within that window and you are guaranteed that rate. Ask him if they will do that(request 120 day and go down from there) and have them put it in writing.
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4043 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 1:24 pm to
I don't see how, even with 30% down.

One way would be to offer to buy a rate lock and see what their response is.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
166249 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

verbally stated a rate of 3.94% for 30 year fixed on a pre approval letter that just states “up to X amount”


the fine print which ran out of ink on the back says frick you!
Posted by Kujo
225-911-5736
Member since Dec 2015
6015 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

Most Banks will do a 60-90 day “rate lock”


Okay, thanks. I’ll see what she says.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84882 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 2:40 pm to
Seems pretty hard to rationalize anything sub 4.5% IMO.
Posted by TMFBB21
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2021
187 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:07 pm to
If a bank keeps the loan as a portfolio loan, then they do not have to price off the market. From what other clients have said, they usually make you bank a certain amount of money or have hidden fees. Many banks use the "brokers" to underwrite and process their loans- That fee for service is given to the borrower. Look over your loan estimate to ensure you do not have an additional fees. Depending where you live, you should only pay $1500 max in processing in UW fees
Posted by TeaParty
Member since May 2022
935 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:15 pm to
I find that very hard to believe in our current situation.
Posted by LSU1018
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
7220 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 6:28 pm to
I would love to see that rate on paper to see how high the fees are. They may not charge them as “points” but you’re paying a lot more in fees.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73596 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 8:45 pm to
No. There is no chance

The 10yr is over 3.0 again

Maybe that was available a week ago
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