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re: Insight, tips for evaluating 1099 job

Posted on 7/3/18 at 11:25 am to
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/3/18 at 11:25 am to
I guess what I was (perhaps naively) looking for was some way to compare present W-2 salary and net with a 1099 job offer and see if it’s even in the ballpark and worth pursuing but looks like I’d at the least need to get hard numbers on some things like health insurance, etc.

It would not surprise me in the slightest if it’s a misclassification. Would it be weird if an employee ratted out their own employer so it would get changed?

Seems like a lot of smaller town and/or old school firms do this even if they’re relatively busy, profitable and noteworthy.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15828 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:21 pm to
I guess you could add benefits plus half of SSI to salary and compare to 1099 payment.

So example:
W2 salary 100,000 plus benefits which are probably on average 10,000 and 7.5% for SSI which is 7500.

So 1099 income of 117500 would be ballpark
Posted by Pussykat
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
3889 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 11:11 pm to
Is deduction taken on 1040 not Sch C ?
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72623 posts
Posted on 7/4/18 at 8:41 am to
Form 1040 - If the plan has less than $250K of assets, (which means there is no IRS Form 5500-EZ filing requirement), then employee deferral contributions are reported on your annual income tax return (1040 line 28) as adjusted income for QRP contribution. Employer Profit sharing contributions would be reported on IRS Form 1040, Schedule C for a self-employed individual and on the corporate tax return for an employer corporation).

the above is from wiki
and of course your employee contribution and employer profit sharing contribution are all deductible after your business deductions.

so you can really lower your taxable income with a solo 401k if you are a IC or SP. it might even drop you into a lower bracket as well depending how much you make.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 7/4/18 at 9:50 am to
quote:

guess what I was (perhaps naively) looking for was some way to compare present W-2 salary and net with a 1099 job offer and see if it’s even in the ballpark and worth pursuing


As a general rule I like to say about 1.33 W2 salary, but that is obviously unscientific. The real answer is it could vary greatly, but if it's less than 1.25 youre probably in the hole.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72623 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

and that is it since there is no pre-tax benefit deductions.


look man, it is ok. you didn't have to run away with your tail tucked between your legs just because you were wrong. you'd garner more respect here admitting you were wrong or just asking honest and open questions.

This board does not take well to fake news or fake info. This is not the poli board where you had best know your shite before diving in. you CAn come here if you do not know something and just ask instead of acting like you know it. Because you will be called out here by regulars and spouting inaccurate info is frowned upon here.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20447 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 1:16 pm to
quote:


As a general rule I like to say about 1.33 W2 salary, but that is obviously unscientific. The real answer is it could vary greatly, but if it's less than 1.25 youre probably in the hole.


This. OP, if you aren't being paid more than 120% of a W2 wage than you are likely losing out. As said, at least 7.5% more in taxes then throw in any benefits such as health insurance, paid for vehicle, and retirement like an employee match.

But the benefit is that you can now count most things as expenses such as mileage.

Fatbastard is right. You basically have 3 retirment plan options that I know of: Simple 401k, SEP IRA, and Simple IRA. I do a SEP IRA but look into all 3 to figure out which fits your needs the most.
This post was edited on 7/6/18 at 1:18 pm
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