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How To Manage Accounts For Marriage

Posted on 8/22/14 at 9:37 am
Posted by RickAstley
Reno, Nevada
Member since May 2011
1995 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 9:37 am
I am looking for feedback regarding managing monetary accounts when married. Some background to start:

Both have:
Mutual funds/stock ownership in a taxable account
Checking
Savings
Credit Cards

One has:
Retirement (Roth IRA and 401k)

We wish to get feedback on what approach to take in handling our accounts. From others that are married or currently split money with someone else, what has worked best for you (regarding things such as bill paying, direct deposit, retirement plans)? We want to establish one account for paying bills or setting up a sensible structure. We also want to maintain some independent control over the outflow of money such as making gift purchases without the other knowing. I am not looking to go overboard on this, I am simply interested in feedback on things that are currently working for the board members.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97615 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 9:45 am to
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Mutual funds/stock ownership in a taxable account


We kept those separate but also have a joint brokerage account

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Checking

one checking joint, both paychecks direct deposit

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Savings

one saving joint but it's rarely used, we use etrade account as savings

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Credit Cards

several and we use them based on point programs, we both have cards on all accounts
Posted by RickAstley
Reno, Nevada
Member since May 2011
1995 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 9:50 am to
Thanks for the feedback

I think your layout makes great sense. We have plenty of time to get things merged and set up on our end. I certainly do not expect to get it right the first try, but I also do not want to take an approach where issues about money come into play.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97615 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 9:57 am to
We tried a few different ways when first married, what works for one couple may not work for the next.


My wife also manages all our finances, I don't even know how much money I make or how to log into our checking account
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
8493 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:33 am to
Retirement accounts are all in separate names.

Joint checking
Joint Savings
Separate Tax Savings Accts (both self-employed)
Separate Credit Cards

For a while, we each had separate checking accts for our "play money", but when we started using credit cards for all of our expenses, we closed those out. Since our credit cards are not linked, then neither of us knows what the other is spending, which admittedly can be a bad thing- especially when the wife has packages showing up at the door several times/week.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83525 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:36 am to
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Mutual funds/stock ownership in a taxable account


separate

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Checking
Savings
Credit Cards


these are all shared

We give each other a monthly cash "allowance" for our personal spending.

This has worked great for us.
Posted by PetreauxCat
TX
Member since May 2009
858 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:45 am to
Everything is in my name, and I pay the bills. She has an AMEX and Visa tied to my accounts. She wouldn't know how to check our finances or pay the bills if she tried. She has a chase checking account that is seperate. When she needs cash I quickpay her the money.
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 1:00 pm
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:44 am to
we each have individ checking to receive paychecks, plus a joint account for household expenses. individ savings, too, plus a joint savings (online only higher interest rate acct)

too many couples leave all the financial details to one party. this is a recipe for disaster in case of illness, death, accident, etc. you should be sharing info and decisionmaking, even if one party shoulders the week to week task of money mgmt. in my line of work, i see many surviving spouses who have absolutely no clue how much it costs to maintain their lifestyles, as they've been shielded from money matters throughout their adult lives. this sets them up for great anxiety in their so-called 'golden years'.

i've heard many a widow lamenting her non-involvement...when she realizes that her investments have underperformed for years (managed by hubby's near-incompetent golf buddy) or that spending was out of line with income but she wasn't privy to hubby's true P&L picture...or simply that she's faced with a steep learning curve at a difficult time in life.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:53 am to
My wife and I have never had an argument over money simply because when we first got married we came to an agreement: her money is her money and my money is her money......
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 1:45 pm
Posted by RickAstley
Reno, Nevada
Member since May 2011
1995 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 1:24 pm to
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too many couples leave all the financial details to one party.


I personally am trying to avoid this route, although I certainly can see how easy it is to get in such a situation.

Thanks to everyone for the responses so far. Just from what has been posted, different things certainly work for different couples. A lot of good information to work off of nonetheless
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 2:20 pm to
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we each have individ checking to receive paychecks, plus a joint account for household expenses. individ savings, too, plus a joint savings (online only higher interest rate acct


Same here we both make a deposit in the joint account every month that more than covers all bills and roll the leftovers to a joint savings account. No money arguments or worrying about what the other spends. Works for us.
Posted by yellowfin
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Member since May 2006
97615 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 2:23 pm to
How do you decide how much each of you contribute to joint account? Say one makes a lot more than the other?


My wife doesn't work so it would be great for me to do it that way
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28335 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 3:08 pm to
Do you both have the same spending habits?
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112417 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 3:20 pm to
First wife (of 17 years) had tremendous spending addiction. I naively let everything be joint and let her handle whatever she wanted to handle. My first clue was when she wanted me to send 5 bags of her clothes to Good Will. I decided to peak into the bags. The clothes still had the tags on them. Never worn.

After divorce and dating randomly for 3 years I was convinced that women were incapable of managing money. After three years I met my 2nd (and current) wife. She made very good money and was deeply in debt. She laid it out straight. She wanted to marry me and admitted that she didn't like dealing with finances and I could have total control.

We've been married 18 years and doing very well. After a year of proving her discipline we joined accounts..banking, stocks, everything is joint. But I control it all.

Much more money is spent on her than me. I have very few needs and I'm happy to spoil her. But she doesn't spend without my permission.
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 3:23 pm to
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we each have individ checking to receive paychecks, plus a joint account for household expenses.

Ditto.
Works for us.

We basically determined how much we wanted to put cumulatively in the joint account monthly and used a %.

e.g. We want to put $1k in the Joint account each month. I make 75k she makes 25k so I put $750 of the $1k we need in the joint account monthly. It's all direct deposited, so it is effortless. We built in a cushion that acts as a savings too.

I initially made considerably more than she did, but she's trying to catch up and the % never changed .

I believe people put too much thought in to the meaning of a joint account. In the past when we had to write checks to pay bills and deposit pay checks, couples having separate accounts could make the whole process more cumbersome and problematic. The ease at which you can pay bills and transfer money between accounts now makes having multiple accounts very easy and IMO creates less money tension. She doesn't get mad at me when I spend way too much money on a fishing/hunting/golfing/etc weekend at the bar or restaurant or wherever. And I don't get mad at her for spending too much shopping for whatever it is she shops for. We each have our own money.
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 3:57 pm
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15749 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 4:13 pm to
all of our accounts are either joint or the other is beneficiary.

Married 23+ years.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 5:54 pm to
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How do you decide how much each of you contribute to joint account? Say one makes a lot more than the other? My wife doesn't work so it would be great for me to do it that way

Sure, you can be completely linear and contribute to the household joint account based on earnings, but there are plenty of intangibles to consider. One spouse may be shouldering more of the housework or home maintenance, or errands. Don't those activities have a value? You'd have to pay someone to do that stuff if the spouse with more free time didn't handle it. Talk about it...you'll figure out what feels fair to both of you.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 6:02 pm to
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Sure, you can be completely linear and contribute to the household joint account based on earnings, but there are plenty of intangibles to consider. One spouse may be shouldering more of the housework or home maintenance, or errands. Don't those activities have a value? You'd have to pay someone to do that stuff if the spouse with more free time didn't handle it. Talk about it...you'll figure out what feels fair to both of you.



WOW, we just decided what we both could afford and were happy with.

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
84062 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 8:23 pm to
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Everything is in my name, and I pay the bills. She has an AMEX and Visa tied to my accounts. She wouldn't know how to check our finances or pay the bills if she tried. She has a chase checking account that is seperate. When she needs cash I quickpay her the money.


This doesn't seem like a good system. Your wife would basically be fricked if you died unexpectedly.
Posted by Blakely Bimbo
Member since Dec 2010
1183 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 10:31 am to
Merging money only works if you both have the same values concerning money. From your description, sounds like you share a money philosophy. Need a joint account to pay bills.

If you are not already married, take a pre marriage inventory, and file it. You can gradually merge non retirement accounts over time, but you want to make sure that you have stated beneficiary on your retirement accounts. Make sure you both have wills.

Managing money together can make a marriage stronger, but then again disagreements about money can tear it apart.





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